How do I get past this?

This girl has been complaining about her BF for the last week, and saying how she doesn't feel bad cheating on him, and how he's a lazy bum, ugly, etc.

We were cuddling on the couch, and I was massaging her, caressing her legs and arm. I tried kissing her, she turned away slightly and said "I can't..."

I ignored her, and kissed her cheek, and then moved over to her neck. Which she was leaning into and digging. Slowly moved back up to her lips, again "I can't..."

This went on for about 5 minutes before she decided to go to bed (to her dorm).

How do I break this?? I don't even want to fuck her necessarily, but I want to kiss her and progress from there.


Thanks

BTW HB 8, Redhead, D cup

She's attracted to you, things should go ahead, but she's got "morals" in her logical mind, conflicting.

You guys just need to have a talk about where this is going, she needs to feel comfortable about moving on. She needs to know it's okay. Possibly even the suggestion she might lose you will make her think hard about what she wants. No need to be aggressive, just have a nice quite talk at length.

Its a tricky situation. We are stationed at a biologcal station, and her position ends in a week and a half. We will never see each other after that.

How do I convince her that it is ok? She said she has cheated on him before, but she was very drunk. The fact that this is conscious and she wants to makes it harder for her.

Before anyone suggests it, I refuse to get her drunk. I've never hooked up with a drunk girl, and I'm not starting now.

sounds like some freeze outs were in order in that situation.

if she refuses escalation, frame the situation into completely platonic. no touching, normal non-sexual convo for a good 10 minutes or so. and then try escalation, or try to induce her to re-engage the kino...then when it comes to kiss time try a slightly different approach.

btw...i used mystery's tongue sucking thing this past weekend. it worked.

"stick ur tongue out, like this (show her...then suck on it.) "see. it's not kissing. i'm just sucking on ur tongue.

note: i used other evolution phase shift bits before the tongue sucking. framed it in the whole "let me tell u about ur erogenous zones" angle

also, if u want to go further, i F-Closed with the "there's another erogenous zone, but its REALLY hidden" then i talked about the g-spot inside her vagina and explained how it is one of two places where a woman can orgasm...etc.

anyways, that's my 2 cents..good luck!!

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Thanks, I'll do some more research in the aforementioned areas.

I would like to do a freeze out, but she is leaving in a week, and that is cutting it close.

EDIT:

Fuck it. Freeze out in process.

Ahhhh.... she's only saying "no I can't" because she feels guilty about cheating on him that first time - that's her fault and she can't deal with it, so she's over compensating by not moving on when she should.

I'll admit I dont' know what the exact course of action here is but definitely something needs to be done. I suggested a talk where you allude to "this is probably not going to work", while I haven't had that exact situation yet myself, my dad was a full on player and he did this sort of thing and they always came crawling back, phone calls etc. he had to really ignore them and push them away.

Freeze out might work too, I can't say. Seems to me like the same as suggesting "this may not work" but without words.

when i said freeze out, i meant short 15 minute freezeouts during the seduction phase. so ur into heavy kino, then she gives u LMR. freeze her out for 15 minutes. say, "it's okay. i understand." then flip the lights on, jump on ur computer and do something completely non-sexual. DON'T be pouty, just non-chalant for a moment.

the purpose of the freeze-out is moments before she was feeling warm and fuzzy with the cuddling and kino, but now, ur taking it away from her...and the freezing out is confusing and slightly awkward. so whe will welcome back the kino and cuddling when u (or hopefully she) re-initiates the kino.

make sure u re-initiate before she's accustomed to the no kino feeling.

i usually don't freeze out by turning lights on, and walking to computer, or another room or anything. usually, i'll pause the kino...and engage a in a non-sexual story and conversation for a good 5-10 minutes (kinda back into Comfort stage) and then re-initiate kino as she's talking and try again.

in one of Mystery's DVD's i remember him mentioning there are usually 3 LMR/Freeze outs on first sexual encounter. so get her back in ur room and start the process again...u only have one week!!! lol...good luck bro!

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have u ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

It gets better: no rooms. I have 5 room mates with bunk beds, so does she. We normally just happen to be the last two awake, so we cuddle in the "common room."


Will attempt another kino session tonight, with interval freeze outs.