This has happened to me a few times.. I have the Hardest time K-closing. Idk why... But for me.. this is the HARDEST part of the game. after the K-close, LMR is nothing, Before the K-close I've done extremely well in the last year or so.

It's not a definite thing, I mean eventually I'll do it, and push forward, but my heart starts beating fast, and i miss opportunities to k-close left and right on day two's and in C3. The hotter the girl, the harder it is too.

Just as a point of reference, It's not a brick wall in my game, as much as a speed bump. i dread the Kiss close every time.. But I've been part of this community for about 2 years, and it got me my most recent girlfriend, when we broke up two months ago, i recently dove back into it.

in these last two month's I've F-closed 5 times, and in a party situation, probably an additional 4 or 5 k-closes, but in One on One's i just dread it..

Last night, I was at an HB10's apartment.. (yes HB10...) and we were hanging out, and watching TV. she let me do laundry there. so it took quite a while. there were three opportunities for a great K-close, but i fucked all of them up. nothing stopping me. close to the end of my laundry i was being cocky funny and she gave me a playful slap followed by "you deserved that" so i finally countered by kissing her and saying "you deserved that". which was a good solid close, we made out until my laundry was done, and kissed again once I left but..

Does anyone have any framing ideas, k-close tactics, and otherwise anything to help me get this area of my game under control?

There is something I don't understand. You seem to say you F-closed about 5 times but you don't K-close ? Or is it just on one-on-on ?

If it is, didn't you K-close with your HB10 ? (quite smartly too :p I enjoyed that line)

Try to read "the game" by Neil Strauss, there is a passage where he copied a post he sent on Mystery's lounge. Something about having a routine (literally a set of habit, not a speech).

If i remember well, he smelled the girl's hair, then talks about how lion's bite their mates, then actually asks the girl to bite him, then pretend she doesn't know how to do it and bites her.

At this point, it seems the girl is just too turned on by the sheer animalism of the move. Well then again, it's Style... You might want to try something less ballsy (or you might want to try JUST that if you have the balls )

GLck

I do end up eventually k-closing, so it's not like i said a brick wall, it's just something that i consistently have trouble with.

and yeah, I've actually used the biting thing by style before and it worked. I guess I've just forgotten about it...

It's mostly a mental thing anyways.

I k-closed twice last evening... so every time, i get a bit better.

Thanks man, i will have to bring that line back out of retirement