First of all, I would like to say hi to all members of this forum . I think the material that is discussed here is really awesome. I believe some of the canned material may not be as effective in The Netherlands where I am from as it would be in the US, but that doesn't hold back my excitement about all the valuable knowledge that is being shared here. I only just read The Game, which totally changed the way I look at seducing women. I am a 21 year old guy who F-closes regularly, although I am not at all satisfied about my skill set yet. I will try to translate my interactions with women as accurately as I can.

Last night I met a very cute HB8 in a techno club. The music was too loud so she couldn't hear my expressed curiosity about this huge freakin camera she was carrying around her neck. Fortunately, I met her again in a bar I went to afterwards. I guess I should have accused her of stalking me, but I didn't. I was able to DHV and get around some annoying competition. I complimented her on her cool and original clothing style (she was really standing out, clearly she cares about art and her clothing) and I gave her a neg about her shoes ruining her outfit (they were damn ugly :p). I asked her what her boyfriend thought of those shoes (I didn't know if she had one at that time, which she does) and she replied he's not around so it doesn't matter. I had a connecting conversation. I just read Chief's great article on sexual tension, which may have been lacking as I think back but there surely was some.

I was running short on material and decided to run the cube on her. I mentioned it first, which seemingly took her interest. She told me she would prefer answering the 5 questions some other time when she is sober and that she is too drunk for it now (I don't blame her, it was already 8:30 AM and I wasn't feeling too bright myself, had about 15 beers). I number closed and went to take a piss. Some gay dude offered me a hand in doing so on the way (this bar I was at, which is run by a friend of mine, is kinda crazy I guess :p). The guy couldn't exactly tempt me of course :p. I thought it was nuts though and I mentioned it jokingly to the HB8 and some old guy she was talking to when I got back. The guy gave me a dirty look as if he was disqualifying me. I had no energy left to deal with this guy and told her I was gonna leave with my friends, which I did. As I walked of, I heard the guy saying that "he" (being me) didn't seem like a very good guy.

Just before I starting writing this post, I decided to send her the alien abduction text using ugly shoes as the criteria: "Fuck, I just heard aliens are abducting everyone without ugly shoes. Fortunately you will be safe, I just wanted to say goodbye to you "

During the writing of this post she replied: "So you didn't like my shoes after all! You liar!" Which is weird, because I had been teasing her on those shoes. I guess This sort of problem arises when you sarge at 8:30 AM :p. I replied: "I was teasing you on those shoes yesterday, I guess you really were more drunk than you seemed (I mentioned she didn't seem as drunk as she said she was during mid-game) You are cruel though, I am being abducted over here and you are worrying about what I think of your shoes :/"

She replied just now: "Yeah as of all of your shoes are really beautiful :p Say hi to those aliens for me! Haha I actually thought I was quite sober last night, but my hangover is telling me otherwise :')"

Bottom line: I really want to seduce this girl. How do I deal with the problem of what her friends think and how to I make her open to cheating or losing her boyfriend? Besides fucking my ex-girlfriend while she had a new boyfriend I never dated a girl with a boyfriend as far as I know. Any suggestions on a tactful way of hanging out with her? And maybe some things to say on the phone or by text? I really haven't a clear view on how to deal with this one. General improvements to my game are also welcome of course .

dude she couldn't have signaled she wanted you any clearer. Did you not think of anything when she said he isn't around much? HINT HINT?? Girls are like monkeys swinging branch to branch and i think she's looking for another branch your way. If I were you I'd text her on a weekend saying hey my buddy cancelled on me tonight. I'm headed to __________ wanna come with me? then make your move. I think the boyfriend situation will make the relationship even more steamy.

Thanks for the reply. Although she didn't say her boyfriend isn't around much (she just said he wasn't around at that moment), I am doing quite alright with her. However, now I am at a point where I am very unsure of how to respond.

I used a series of texts I read on this forum that I copied from DistinctiveManner. I text her asking her what movie she would recommend and she replied being enthusiastic about Un Prophete.
I text: "Sounds mysterious, is it good enough to watch twice?"
She confirms that it is, although she thought it is not possible to download it yet and that she can't sleep.
I text her "Great! Let's meet at friday at 9PM. As the awesome guy I am, I will make sure of the film (It is actually easy to download it) and to you can sleep nicely at home afterwards on a great memory "

She replied: "Oh hihi, but awesome guy, I did tell you I have a boyfriend last saturday right? (I hope)"

Which is a great reply. But like I mentioned before, I have never ever dealt with this kind of problem before (the problem that she has a boyfriend). How do I respond?


side note: I was expecting something more like yes or no, and then either way I would respond saying that I was joking, that I told her I won't have time to meet her very soon, which I did tell her before. I don't think that is a good idea given her last reply. Help me out please, I can't wait too long with my reply