Ok this is my first post when is the best time to ask for her #? Like I was with this girl and I didn't want to ask her too early because it would look like I'm desperate she ended up leaving the club and it was too late so when is the best time?

Easy

you - Hey - I really love doing X, do you X
her - yes.... etc etc
you - You know what I know this great place where we can do X, we should go
her - yes.... etc etc
you - great what's your number..... I am a bit busy this week but next week let's do it
her - here's my number


Number + Date

If stuck for X, I use "You know what I love going for icecream, and I haven't been in soo long. Do you like icecream?"

what girl doesn't like icecream - and it's not a big ask from her

then "I know the best place...."

Timewise
Depends on the girl - and how it's going. If you want to go off and leave/do something else, about 10 mins before this.

Don't leave after getting the number, stay for at least another 10mins. At the end remind her what you are going to do.

Stops her flaking out when you come to ask for the date

If your running the standard Mystery model the safest time to ask for a number without falling flat is just as the situation goes kino the attraction is in the open then and to refuse would be inconsistent with her previous actions,a good method to use is a compliance/value/curiosity frame.

PUA : "are you romantic?"

Girl : "yes I am"

PUA : "seriously would you describe yourself as a romantic woman?"

Girl : "yes I would!!!!"

PUA : "Ok I believe you give me your number then"

What has being romantic got to do with giving someone your number? nothing!

Technique in order:

Cold read:
Yes set:
Consistency frame:
Seeded suggestion:
Criterial linking
Compliance momentum:
Curiosity:

Get out clause; Girl: "I'm not giving you my number"

PUA: " I knew it! your not romantic at all" [wave finger]...........

This will get the number but...
You are likely to get flakes and fake numbers this way. Your game has to be really good for her to want to see you again. If this works for you and you get lots of day2's I take my hat off to you.

The principle relies on the girls curiosity to why you asked if she's romantic or not before you asked for the number,you're screening her before you know if you even want the number,she may have given it to a dozen PUA's earlier now she wants to know the romantic reason to why she give it to you as opposed to the standard social dynamics program of "let's exchange numbers" she normally gets,it relies on a principle called the Zeigernik effect where you are much more likely to remember something unfinished than something completed because your brain can't file it away.

Practically all girls love romance and even the possibility of it will separate you from the crowd (you will have to come up with something romantic though or you will have an enemy for life)


Consider the opposite situation based on the different wants of the two sexes.

Girl; "are you really good in bed?"

Redroooster; "yes I am"

Girl; " no seriously would you describe yourself as being really good between the sheets?"

Redroooster; "yes!!!"

Girl; "give me your number then"

Would you decline? what does she have in mind? it's certainly interesting.


To avoid fake numbers(which you shouldn't get if your game is tight) say "give me your number and I'll text you mine straight back"

For me - this sort of thing gets the number and then she doesn't want to go on the date with you later. The magic has faded from when you were with her.

By getting her to agree to the date and get the number - you've got the day2 already sorted out then and there.

This also ticks the 'future pacing' box if you are only interesting in sleeping with her that night.