So since I've joined this forum, I've had a hell of a lot more success in far less time. To be specific, 5 numbers in just over a week, and hung out with one of them twice so far. This may not seem like a lot. But for anybody who got blown out/blown off repeatedly early on, this is one hell of an improvement. Now that said, I'm looking to make these approaches more successful.

In the past, I have been able to get a number without alot of problems. Even in my days when i was a realllll bad AFC, it wasn't that hard for me to get a number. However, I have had one issue that i'd like to fix: keeping women from flaking. By that, I mean keeping them from backing out when you try to set up a day 2 or just a tentative meeting for sometime in the near future. Ideas and tips are appreciated.

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Expect everything, and anything seems like nothing. Expect nothing, and anything seems like everything.

Escalate my friend! Isolate, kino establish an emotional connection and then go for the k-close. Bounce to a different venue on the same night. Take her home.

A number close is pretty easy but it doesn't really mean much. I don't ever expect to see a girl again after a number close.

Yes. In night game, a number close is a last resort.

So always keep escalating as far as possible when you have the time.

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Keep flying until, you are the king of the hill.
No force of a nature can break, your will to self-motivate.
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points well taken. Thanks for the advice!

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Expect everything, and anything seems like nothing. Expect nothing, and anything seems like everything.

Give them a reason to want to meet up, have VALUE amigo.


There's no "Pause" button with woman when U haven't slept with em. I like to think of it like old school Mario, you got as far as you could during your playtime because you knew as soon as you turned it off and walk away, when you came back you had to start over. Now logically you assume you should be able to pick up where you left off but the console and game aren't programmed that way. Make sense?

One of the best ways I find to get a girl to come hang out tho, is to invite her to come play scrabble with me & some of my home girls..

It displays preselection, in fact have one of ur girl pals hit her up on the phone and invite her for you. Make sure the girl that calls for you is assertive and makes it sound like she's gonna have to get through her to get to you, but in a playful way.

TIP Have Homegirls that you could hit up for random favors like this, I have about 4 childhood girlfriends that I could call up anytime for anything. They understand my madness and help me out when I need it. It's a relationship of give and take.
Having girls in your life that are JUST friends will move your progress along way faster.