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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:15 pm 
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I've read through the material of the Gunwitch method.
And I have some questions regarding it.

Since I - as most people -
started with MM and really begins to handle
myself quite well, Im thinking that the mindset in Gunwitch method is what I need to bring into my game in order to create sexual tention and more easily
get full close.

Im good at kino escalation and I have no trouble with the K-close.
But when things are begining to get sexual it can go either way.
I just dont have the tools to forsee what will happen and how a girl reacts in the endgame.
And I thinks its weird because I'll know exactly what do expect and how to handle the situation during Attraction and Mid-game.

In order to get girl to want me so bad she'll take any chance.
What are the key things to do?
-Get physicly closer to target?
-Bedroom eyes?
-Look like sex, think about sex - dont talk about sex?
-Talk about sex by using insinuation?
-More kino
-Making out? ( I dont enjoy when a girl lick my face in public...)
-Push and pull? (Make out with her - "We got to stop"- Make out some more..)

Help me out here guys I need some serious tips.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:06 pm 
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We are in very similar situations in so far as our learning of the material, but I will give you the little input that I can offer. I hope it helps.

After reading MM and then Gunwitch, I really liked MM to open bigger sets, but for single sets, direct game and Gunwitch is the way to go.

From my recent understanding about Gunwitch (and I thank my friend for having a discussion with me about it), is that you want to constantly be in and feeling the sexual state. It's like that feeling that you get when you really want a girl and you are willing to do anything for her. Usually we repress those feelings to talk with them because we do not want those feelings to be rejected. Instead, build rapport while constantly giving her those eyes, bitting your lips, etc. like you want to have rough sex with her. Women can feel that desire; make it come through you so that when she feels it, she will think that she is also feeling it--all caused by you. Of course you kino escalate as soon as you get to her.

I am not sure what lvl you are on when it comes to relations with women, but generally speaking, you want to let your feelings show of those moments when you have been sexual with women (more on this below). Have you ever felt very sad to the point that you have people come up to you and ask you if everything is okay? The same goes for if you are very happy; people just FEEL that something great has happened to you. Notice also how you can know when someone else is feeling sad or elated. It's not something they tell you, most times; it is something that they exude by they body language, their energy, facial expressions, even their voice tonality. Try to mimic your state just before you are about to have sex with a woman you truly desire. At that point, a man does anything to have sex. I, for instance, I say the sweetest things, touch the most seductive places, look at her as if she is the only woman in my heart, etc. That mixed with turning her on by kissing her in the right places usually is enough for minimal LMR.

Replying for specific to what you asked, you should isolate her to a seduction location (somewhere romantic or private). I would not advise you to say "we should stop" unless you are saying it in such a way to imply that that is not what you want at all, as if you really want to do it more than anything in the world. KINO is very important. You must be subtle with it while you are seducing her. I think that once you have attraction and comfort, and she has given you IOIs and even made out with you while allowing you to touch her in certain places, she is just looking for you to escalate to sex. That is when Gunwitch states that she has reciprocated your sexual state, and you should go in for SEX. If you are not good at acting the role, say it as soon as you notice her interested in you. What you say must conform with what you are acting out. Sooner or later, you will begin to notice your actions when you are on the sexual state and you will have no need for words.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:40 pm 
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Thank you very much for a thoughtfull reply.

The problem I have is as said with the Sexualtention and escalating.
When Im running my game I often end up being in the center,
the one telling the jokes, the one introducing everyone to each other.
And I often enjoy this so much I forget the importance of
getting a smoking hot eyecontact goin with targets in set.
I think I've been over disqualifing girls by ignoring IOI:s, when I instead should give them back...

Thats the core.
The problem isnt comfort and its not attraction.
I get numbers and I have succesfull dates, and I sure get my fare
share of Full closes. But I wanne be able to pickup a girl anywhere and
have her follow me into the night with mystery, passion and trust.

Im not an asshole in anyway, Its just that I never find girls as interesting
on Day2 as I do on the first meet.

New gameplan:
- Return IOI:s in grater scale - but still hold the frame (Puss and pull)
- Get isolation
- Display a sexualstate that she will detect and adjust to targets
level of excitment
-Make sure to have som orangejuice for breakfust day2 ;)

Have I got it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:33 pm 
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I dont know what it is that creates this feeling in you that you do not find them interesting in day2 as you did in day 1. To tell you the truth, you should find a female interesting at least for a month or 10 days. You should reflect upon yourself because you could have commitment issues, being scared of actually getting to know someone or falling for someone.
I never get bored because I take it upon myself to keep things interesting. I make sure that whatever is happening is to my liking--that way i am content with the events taking place. If I am happy, then my female feels happy. Its awesome and I love making them feel happy.
You seem to have the game in control. You may need to focus on your attention to the target rather than being so energetic toward the group (a valuable skill for social proofing yourself, but not helpful to seduce a particular woman). Your end-game has some issues from what you are saying. To turn on a girl, the best piece of advice that I can give is that you should foreplay until she explodes. Do not rush the foreplay because then she will feel the rushing and develop LMRs. Better to relax and give her an awesome time and so her how special she is by not seeing her as a goal for you to ejaculate; rather please her and you will get there as well....

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