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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:01 pm 
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This was how the night went down. He took me to his guy friend's party. We all got drunk. he wanted to bet with me that if we won the game, i would have to go swimming in his pool. i told him i didn't have a bikini and he said it's fine. we won the game and he took me back to his place. he took me to his mom's room "wierd". we just cuddled for a bit as he rubbed my back and legs. then he kissed me and we madeout for a little bit. he went on top and started thrusting himself at me. i could feel his hard cock rub against me. 10 mins later, i told him i had to go. on the ride to my house, he told me usually the girls who seem into him, he backs away. he cheated on his gf in college by dating another girl.

my question is, i stopped myself from having sex with him. still he was lucky to have the chance to makeout with me. who has the upper hand in this game right about now?

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You need to stop worrying about who "has the upper hand" or who is in control of the interaction. If you wanted to have sex with this guy, he wanted to have sex with you, and the two of you didn't, then everybody lost.

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GUYS WIN THE GAME BY: having sex with the girl, getting her number, hooking up with her

so if i had sex with him, i'd lose the game.....my goal is to tease him for the longest time and by not sleeping with him

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I hate that mentality. For some women, sex is their ultimate weapon and they feel like giving in to the guy when having sex with him, thus loosing all their power. It shouldn't be that way. Weak guys will play along your silly game, begging to have sex with you.

A real PUA has options. If a girl refuses to have sex with a guy for exactly the reason you have (trying to have the upper hand on him), the PUA will simply next her and invite another girl. Love the power of a big inventory: Girl 1 is playing difficult games, girl 2 is ready for the ride :P

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sex is sex a mutual exchange of pleasure no one benefits more than anyone else. A lot of guys will notice you are playing games and ditch you. If you want to sleep with the guy do it, unless you are but ugly a ONS is unlikely x

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GUYS WIN THE GAME BY: having sex with the girl, getting her number, hooking up with her
That is unbelivably shallow.

Why do guys get into 'the game'? It's to meet women, to get better with women. It's never a question of winning. It's a question of playing.

I'm in the game to have the tools and the ballz to go up to a women and interact with her when I feel like doing so.

If I look back on my life, when I saw that girl that attracted me, I would of just sit back with my friends, keept on drinking my drink and just stare at her randomly. The game to me is the change of mentality to set my drink down and walk up to her. This combined with having an understanding of what and what not to do is my goal. When I set my drink down, I've already 'won' the game. I beat my typical procrastinator self; I became a selector not a candidate. Whether I get 'rejected', f-close or if it develops into a nice relationship doesn't matter.
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so if i had sex with him, i'd lose the game.....
What is the Win/Win alternative? Find it out. That is what you should be aiming at, not you winning regardless. What is a win for you. What is a win for him.


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The undertones I'm getting from your message is that you weren't comfortable with him. You didn't explicitly state that you wanted to have sex with him, and the way you described it made it sound a bit dirty and trivial. Also the word "weird" was a bit of a hint. :D I think you were uncomfortable and that's why you felt the need to "fight back" and "try and win the game".

If you really liked him you would have been all over him, right?

In my opinion, if he got you to lose a card game and the penalty was to go swimming in his pool - naked - he should have followed through with that, and then of course you could have backed out if you wanted to. But the fact that he suddenly decided "it was on" and took you straight to his room, is very weird, and I imagine if I was a girl, I'd be turned off by that too.


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neither of you have the upper hand.

You could have had the upper hand tho if you would of played with him a little bit then went thats enough for tonight i've got to go.

"If your a good boy we can continue were we left off soon ;)."

A girl says that to me shes got me whipped LOL as i like working for a girl its all about the chase man.


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If the guy has any shred of self respect he will tell you to fuck off if you tell him that (sorry dude) but yar a lot of guys don't do games any more. So at the first sign of you trying to have some girl power position or something he will go after someone else. In short games are immature and boring, guys do not like them despite what sex and the city says and any high quality guy simply won't take that shit.

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GUYS WIN THE GAME BY: having sex with the girl, getting her number, hooking up with her

so if i had sex with him, i'd lose the game.....my goal is to tease him for the longest time and by not sleeping with him
If you want to have sex with him and he wants to have sex with you, why keep teasing him? He'll only lose interest.

The bolded part, I think, isn't a great way to play the game or view it

No-one specific is the winner of the game, you have both consented to have sex with each other. With your view you lose the game everytime you'd have sex with a man, so why bother?


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What is this winning and losing shit anyway?

The whole point of all this is for 2 people to find each other and have a good time, and in the long term, a mate for life.

The game only exists to build attraction and to find a good partner. The winning conditions are for both people to be happy. So there is no winner and looser...


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What is this winning and losing shit anyway?

The whole point of all this is for 2 people to find each other and have a good time, and in the long term, a mate for life.

The game only exists to build attraction and to find a good partner. The winning conditions are for both people to be happy. So there is no winner and looser...
i disagree. i believe each of us has a goal dealing with the opposite sex. we accomplish our goal by using the game. the game helps us get our goal.

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So your goal is to tease guys? Sounds like you're missing out.


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