Okay gentlemen so I have been working the day game quite a bit lately and I have to say I think I am getting quite good with it. I saw two beautiful girls yesterday just sitting on the steps of a church near the reflection pool, and I will share my opener in another post (it worked really really well).

So I have a date with the target tomorrow . She seems excited about it, and I just wanted to ask all of you more experience PUAs for any kind of advice you have about this date, I will be eternally grateful!

I really hope to k-close if all goes well, but I won't be too ambitious, but any good k-close routines would be very helpful. Also, I'd rather not have to pay for her. What are some ways around this without seeming like an ass.

Thanks a lot, and check my posts in the next few days if you want to see that opener! If you like using a more direct approach it will work well for you.

-Nehal

Have you used the word DATE? Or have you just established that your gonna meet-up and hangout?

Do something first like: I just gotta go and buy a new shirt, your into a fascion are ya? Great.. lets go.

If you first share a little experince with this girl you'll allready have alot stuff to talk about when you later sit down, or have a walk or whatever.
*The store you went to(Has she been there before? What did she think of it?)
*Does she normally help guys pick out clothes? Ever helped like your brother?
(now you can talk about her family.. build comfort)
*If your shirt is red.. ask her what her favourite color is. Maybe do some coldreading on it.. (if you have any routines on this..)

If you end up having a great time do some kino and see howe far you can go.
You need some kino before, or else the kiss will feel weird.. or your attempt
if she doesnt want to.

Good luck!!

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Sounds good, cant wait to see that opener.

Theres loads of thing you can do for free, i think theres a topic about it somewhere in the forum.

You could go for a walk, or go for coffee/tea and get her to pay 1/2 or try and get her to pay for all of it, so maybe take her for a walk and then get to the coffee place and say "Well i paid for the walk, guess its your turn to get this", and go sit down leaving her to pay for it.

Good luck and let us know how it goes

If its because you dont have any money.. it could be a problem.

But if its because she helped you pick out a shirt.. or whatever. Its a good reason.

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered

You didn't go specific on what the date was going to be, so there is not so much input that we can give.

If you said it was a date then she will probably expect you to pay, so there is not much room for you to get out of it without seeming like an ass.

If it was just for a normal cup of coffee or something like that you just go and buy your own and expect her to do the same.

Hope this helps.

- Exerio

You want to do something called prizing(gaming but different) she need to see you as the prize, not the other way around. She's has to try to win you over and chase you. You can read swinggcat's ebook to learn all about this. You need to use push and pull(make her feel your not interested, then show signs of apparent interest) also cold reading works. Make her believe you know more about her than she does(like her personality and emotions) deny that you are on a date(your just hanging out) she'll pay for herself. Your have her on an emotional roller coaster by insisting it's not a date, but then buildin comfort and eventually a kiss close. Do this by saying she smells good, then giving her a small kiss, then push her off. She'll desire you more. It's all about prizing.

Cmon now ... you ask her out on a date but don't wanna pay or want her to pay for her part ... that is a game killer right there ... anyways if you haven't already went I would suggest going somewhere free or inexpensive so you can cover both of you at a cheap price ... girls will be the first people to say wtf he didn't pay for me that fucking bastard .... as far as kiss close you need to be more worried about getting through the date ... make sure you have strong rapport your funny entertaining, have her eating out the palm of your hand ... then from there the kiss close will come natural and be expected ...

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I see nothing wrong with going 50/50 on the meal... You barely even know this girl... Why should you pay for the meal of a stranger? If the relationship progresses then that's a different story... I think David X said it best:

"“Girls don’t respect guys who buy them drinks. A true pickup artist knows never to buy meals, drinks, or gifts for a girl he hasn’t slept with. Dating is for tools.”

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