Day two with HB6: ADD/C+F



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Note: Some of the events might be out of order, time-wise. I have a terrible memory :P. The general idea is still there. Sorry for the long post...

I was practicing my online game with random HB's on a a dating website when I found a 20 year old girl who responded very well to my cocky/funny banter. She liked my profile (which btw, has no pictures, and a pretty arrogant description of me, in which I mentioned how cocky I am and how much I enjoy myself; a couple of the lines where inspired by Style in his interview with DD). She asked for a pic, which I gave later in the chat.

She liked it, so I proceeded to tease her and she eventually said that she would be free all weekend. Ding, Ding, Ding. I asked for a number, and she gave it up without much reluctance. I called and stayed congruent (surprising, since I was pretty damn nervous at that point), calling her names like dork and talking to her like I already knew her for a while (DeAngelo's "treat her like your bratty sister" comes to mind).

I told her I'd call at exactly 9:06 (something I got from Sinn) and called an hour later. I arranged a date for Saturday, at around 5-6. I changed it around 12 on Saturday, and I met her at Times Square. By this time I was sweating, partly because I was nervous, partly because it was a scorching 75.

She was cuter that her pics, so that was a definite plus. She, however seemed disappointing or angry... If I was the same AFC I was around a month ago, I would have thought that this is it, that this would be just an awkward day where she plays all nicey nicey to not hurt my feelings. Thank god my outward AFC is slowly dying.

As soon as I noticed she was avoiding eye contact, moving away from me, and looking pretty disappointing, my inner game kicked in to high gear and said "She doesn't know me much, and the day just started. Attraction isn't a choice (DD). I should just location change, and then evaluate her responses (The location change idea came from Grimble, I think, in Mystery Method)." I started the fuck/marry/kill game with her to establish some familiarity. She refused, so I caller her lame (this would be a repeated phrase throughout the whole day, along with lame-o) and proceeded to play it myself.

She giggled when I pointed to an annoying looking HB7 as the 'kill'. First signs of conscious laughter. Hoo-Ah.

I was headed to Macy's, so I asked a couple of people and learned it was over ten blocks away. We started walking in the general direction when I noticed that my mind was becoming blank, and I was starting to worry about what to say.

'RELAX. FREE YOUR MIND. LIVE IN THE NOW (haha, thanks Tolle, and thanks to Stormy for introducing him to me).'

So I just decided to go on impulse. I spotted a gap across the street and told her we where going there. Inside we just browsed the clothes, and then went up to the woman's section. She directed her first insult at me there.

I was looking at the dresses, and she said "You like to wear woman's clothing, right?"

Now, here is where I would have to asses what an AFC would say. "No." "Fuck you." "Shut up."

I said "Yes." I think in one of DD's interviews I heard someone saying that when she insults you, play on it. Don't respond or insult her back. Something like that at least. I then proceeded to say how Julio, my Latin lover, loves to see me dress this way. She asked if I was gay, and I responded only for Julio.

We went on to the baby section, where I proceeded to tease her about how she could fit perfectly in most of the clothes there (she was pretty short). This is the point where my problem with not knowing what to say was resolved. I started multi-threading, but at an ADD level, never staying on the same subject for a decent amount of the time. When we got out, I started a conversation on anything. I spotted a pizza place, and told her that the pizza here was shit, then asked her if she liked pizza. I then asked here if food was just as expensive where where she lived.

Basically I picked out anything she said, any word, and made it into a conversation. I think I got this from a DD interview, but I am not really sure. I know however that it's great for long pauses.

I stayed congruent with the ADD/C+F, and injected some childish games along the way (Let's play fight, Let's see who can jump higher, Let's play thumb wrestling, which is a great kino initiator). I didn't compliment her until later in the date when she started to talk actively and opened up to me more (there was even a little emotional baggage).

By the time we where at Macy's, she told me about her hate of tourists, and Times Square in general because of its enormous crowds. After we left the store, we proceeded to Bryant Park (I don't know if that is that's the right spelling). Along the way we stopped by a mini-park with some shitty green chairs, and took a rest. Here is established more kino by reading her palm and telling her that the middle crease was the retard line, and if anyone ever told her that she was a retard (Was it 26 who said that? I don't know, but it's great) and she laughed. I then proceeded to play the hand slapping game. Later, I started a small philosophical discussion, and then switched over to talking about pigeons, and multi-threaded from there.

I got her to sit parallel from me, and told her to close her eyes. She started to look shaky and said I was making her nervous. Time to establish some comfort!
I hugged her and made her relax, and then proceeded to head for the park.

When we got there, it was super packed. We sat in some chairs under an umbrella and I again started ADDing her ("Hey did you notice how pigeons always bob their heads?" I forgot who mentioned the Egyptian walk, but I proceeded to talk about how hard it was for the Egyptians to walk like that all day, dancing at every step)

I then proceeded to do Hypnotica's soul gazing technique, which got us more on the same vibe. If you don't know what it is, I highly suggest that you look it up.

After the soul gazing, we people watched from our chairs, and I made a background story up for a guy who looked like a tourist. By this time, I had established kino by putting my arm around her and giving her kisses on the cheek. She giggled every time I did it, so I took as to she was comfortable with it. We proceeded to the Hard Rock Cafe, where we found some empty seats (amazing), and where immediately kicked out because we didn't have any reservations. Hoo-Ah, location change.

We went to another building that had some couches. I ADD'd a little and then got a little more intimate by saying how I liked her vibe, and how I liked her. I already knew she was attracted to me at this point: she already compared me to two of her friends and a character on TV that she liked, was punching me in the arm a lot when I negged her, did a lot of the things I demanded, laughing at relatively unfunny conversations, accepted kino pretty well, and didn't appose when I told her I knew she liked me. To test the attraction even further, when we where about to leave, I told her that I am not getting off the couch until she hugs me. I stayed seated on the couch for a minute or two, telling her that I am not getting up (She began pulling my arm) until the hug. She finally gave in and we left.

She also said something interesting: "You overwhelm me. I can't keep up with you." In a good way. This reminded me of the general rule of having more energy than the HB.

That's pretty much it. Here are some +'s and -'s

Positive:

- Stayed congruent with ADD and C+F
- Escalated kino pretty well
- Location change was pretty successful
- 90% childish or kooky behavior, interjected with 10% semi-serious talk
- A lot of demanding (She mentioned how I demand a lot, but did most of the things I told her to do)
- She laughed at most of the things that weren't really funny
- I stayed 'cooler' than her, another must in game, by always suggesting things that would get us into trouble
- Played on her insults

Negative:

- Over negged a lot
- Was a little too forcing at several points
- Acted a little too immature
- Told her several times that she looked a bit unhappy
- Contradicted myself at some points

Generally I noticed that the ADD multi-threading was good in a way that it conveyed a more bouncy personality and started some fun conversations. I think it was either Vin DiCardo (Or was it Will?) who mentioned that people with OCD/ADD made good players. I kept talking, so any insults that were too harsh or if I messed up on something where mostly forgotten in the midst of dumb, childish topics.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:35 pm 
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good job man being calm cool and collected and handling the situation well, what is this Hypnotica's soul gazing technique?

I was looking at the dresses, and she said "You like to wear woman's clothing, right?", i would of looked at her really dumb come on your way to classy to act like that?

ps. how did your response work out.... saying your gay??? effective?

whats the update on this girl any luck?


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Well, this happened yesterday, but it did go well, so there may be more to come. As for the soul gazing it's hard to describe. Just google it :P

She didn't have much to say after the Julio comment. I played on her insult and left her hanging. It just showed that I could take verbal abuse pretty well :P


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Haha, wow she flaked on me three days later. I am befuddled by this sudden... "I don't think I am the girl you're looking for"

I am a bit puzzled. Maybe someone can point out why this might have happened? I don't care much about her, but I am curious if I did something to hurt my chances. I thought the date went pretty well. :?: :?: :?:


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From a girl's perspective, the date sounds amazing, and she seems to have been really into you. However she sounds like she has some self-esteem problems (and I think you mentioned some emotional baggage?). That and some other aspects (the "overwhelm" comment, the over-negging) would make me guess that she's afraid she's not good enough for you... or that you will make her feel that she's not good enough for you.

Also don't forget that in those three days she probably discussed you with all her friends and may have even showed them your profile on that dating website. Possibly they advised her that you're too arrogant and told her to steer away. We girls pretty much run almost everything by our friends and sometimes if we're the under-confident types we let their opinions override our own instincts.

Not sure what you should do in this situation though as every possible response I can think of is either too AFC or would just confirm her suspicions if indeed she's afraid that you are or think you are too good for her.


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Hmm, I don't think it was a confidence problem, as she wants to be an actress and loves getting on stage. She wasn't to phased by my more hurtful insults either. She was texting her friend a lot, so I guess she did talk a lot to her friends about it. Thanks for the suggestion!


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Hmm, I don't think it was a confidence problem, as she wants to be an actress and loves getting on stage. She wasn't to phased by my more hurtful insults either. She was texting her friend a lot, so I guess she did talk a lot to her friends about it. Thanks for the suggestion!


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Possibly you could get back to her with something like, "How would you know what kind of girl I'm looking for?? I'll make my own decisions, please!" Or something to that effect...


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