Heavy IOI but lack of Kino = LJBF :( I know this is V. Wierd



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:40 pm 
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I'm certain, this is going to be one of the weirdest stories of a WBAFC!

I met this single HB7 who accompanied us guys to an amusement park. I didn't talk to her too much at the park but I got home and found her on facebook, that's where we exchanged and talked a bit about stuff that we liked and very soon, I asked her for her digits and it looked like she was interested so we exchanged numbers. I waited 3 days to call her; not to come off as needy and to my surprise before I could do that, she called me first, to talk about a school subject (She's a clever-clever HB! :idea: )
I called her back after a few days and asked her out for dinner, she said an instant yes before I could even ask her for more!
We went out for a nice candle light dinner ;)... during which she gave me a lot of IOI, for instance talked about sex, raunchy jokes, obscenity on the first date!!! I'm sure she tried to seduce me but me being an AFC, I didn't do anything about it and sat there like a vegetable :( There was absolutely no kino and we sat face-on-face rather than besides. For what I'm now regretting.
She told me about her long list of bad-bad sad past relationships and things she'd done which somehow explained she loved sex ;)
She asked me a few questions to which I answered as a li'l bit needy to date her.
We went out again for couple more luncheons and with all her IOI taking into account, I still didn't pounce upon :(
She also invited me to a cafe and wanted all her good girl-friends to meet me which I consider that as a big IOI and for her friends' opinion on me or something I presume. And I remember this one time she got close and tried leaning against me whilst waiting for her friends' arrival (for which I should've moved my bloody arm and placed it around her shoulders)

After a few days, I failed to receive any good vibes from her and looked very indifferent (I think she was seriously pissed off cause she tried lots for me to lead it and I didn't)
One day, I made a typical AFC move and told her that I liked her to make sure she still liked me. Alas, she said "I see you as good friends, my friends suggested me to date you but you're just too nice to date. I'm a crazy girl and don't want to mess up!" That's all that she said and talked about something else and has never raked it again till date, nor have I.

I never realized what "too nice" meant until a few days ago I tried hard and went through all the internet forums to get an inkling to what she really meant and now I conclude it was a rejection due to lack of kino and I appeared shy and diffident.
I didn't appear very needy to her (I never got her flowers, chocolates or paid for her coffee and food, we dutched) but I know it's been the most foolish of me to have not progressed with the kino, rather totally devoid of kino :( She still called me almost everyday and spoke like nothing ever happened, despite the fact that I expressed my feelings.

Fortunately, she went overseas for a month and I took the advantage of not keeping in touch during her stay. She got back and called me the same day and now tries to check on me if I'm still interested by her little games :) She calls me more than I do infact! :) But no, she doesn't cry upon my shoulders, ask me to fix things or anything a GIRL-FRIEND would do to a guy being a doormat.

Do I still have hopes with this as she's already considered me as an AFC? I've read through a lot and realized all my mistakes and looks like I can play it off to change her perspective by kino escalation which I think should work. I'm just scared to touch women, like there's an invisible roadblock or something but now I think I'm slowly breaking the ice.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:30 pm 
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Good News! From what you showed above, you've still got a shot but for the love of god listen to her, not in an AFC way of course, but just listen because she's telling you what she wants. She talked about sex, said you're too nice to date, etc. etc. Her going away for a while is perfect because now you should be showing her how you've changed.

For the love of god take the lead! she's not going to undress herself and jump on top of you but she's probably more than willing if you would just lead her! do some kino, make decisions, be assertive. If she tries to talk to you about any of that "girl-friend" bullshit tell her you don't want to hear it.

The fact that shes still calling you so often is because she's still waiting to see whether your balls are gonna drop. Be the man! Punish her by cutting off contact when she does something you don't like and reward her when she does something you do like.

Whatever you do don't be needy or emotional. This girl sounds like she likes sex and wants to have some fun so just marinate your yammer rod in her squish mitten.

Summary: I would invite her over to watch a movie and go caveman on her. If she doesn't comply freeze her out. Then go caveman again. Repeat as necessary. Refuse to play any games.


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Sheer Con's got the right idea. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:44 am 
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Kino is over-rated...if she intrested she'll kiss


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kino overrated? what are you smoking.. kino makes transitioning to this k-close soooo much easier.. how do u expect to f-close this chick without touching her.


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Thanks a lot guys, I'm going to her ask out soon and stick to the escalation ladder and go caveman :)
Will keep you updated!


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Thanks a lot guys, I'm going to her ask out soon and stick to the escalation ladder and go caveman :)
Will keep you update!
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Kino is, quite possibly, the most UNDER-rated aspect of pickup. Nobody pays enough attention to it.

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Thanks a lot guys, I'm going to her ask out soon and stick to the escalation ladder and go caveman :)
Will keep you update!
I didn't know it was possible to choke on cigarette smoke, but I just did.

Kino is, quite possibly, the most UNDER-rated aspect of pickup. Nobody pays enough attention to it.
You are so frikkin right... I was almost everything what she wanted me to be but without the kino, it failed. It's so much like salt.


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