Hello fellow god's gift to women,

I have a quick question for you. Just to give you a little background, a, Italian HB8.5 msg'd me on POF last week throwing a CRAZY amount of IOIs right in the first msg. So we emailed back and forth for about a week. Mostly just witty banter/C&F responses. I had suggested in one of my emails that we exchange numbers, in which she didn't really give me a straight answer. So I waited until the next msg to call her out on it. And I did. I basically told her I'm not interested in having a "pen pal", and if this is going to go anywhere that we should exchange numbers. ***on a side note, for any newbies on here, never and I mean NEVER stop progression. Always be making advances as soon as you can. The minute you stop the escalation, you're fucked in the friend zone. but I digress.

So she sent me her number and we've spent some time txting back and forth. Which brings us to the present day. I've had her number for a day now. This is really my first online sarge, so I'm not exactly sure what the protocol (for lack of better expression) is in terms of meeting up. The attraction has been built up and we've moved into some of comfort phase. I don't want to jump the gun and make it seem like I need her (to be honest, I really don't), but I REALLY want to f close this girl ASAP. How long should I wait before bring up the concept of meeting up?

Cheers Boys, and happy sarging

Setup a date soon! Don't get into comfort too much and end up a friend. Get her on the date, impress, attract, build comfort, seduce, ENJOY & HAVE FUN!

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Thanks Jsmooth. I appreciate your remarks, however not really the answer I was looking for. To be more specific, I'd like to know how soon I can make a date. I'm not worried about getting put into the friend zone because of her responses, I'm worried that if I come on too strong to quickly, she might see it as desperation and/or a creepy internet guy. Once again, this is my first online sarge and some of my buddies that have had experience with online sarging keep telling me that if I come on too strong, too quickly then I could rock the boat and lose the babe. Thoughts anyone?

Okay man. I should have been more specific, sorry about that.

Focus with me for just a moment. I run an online game question thread on the forum, wrote a book about it, and have been able to guide others through this without a problem. You need to setup the date today! I agree that non-neediness is a good quality to display though.

I know your friends are trying to help and that's cool, but hear me out.

You don't want to seem desperate but....You have to take the initiative. Ask her out and don't apologize for it. Women like guys who take the lead are in control and don't apologize for it.

What happens with some guys, not saying you're like this, but we wait and she gets bored, and then we loose attraction fast. Or others will ask her out and she'll be like well I'm in a relationship or whatever. Then he is instantly like "I'm sorry I didn't know, or something like that."

You're a man, she's a woman, you taking the initiative to ask her out like this is in a way a compliment to her. Ask her out. If she says yes, then great. If No, then don't apologize for it and be cool. It's no big deal, there are other women, and this site can help you get them.

Here is a tip for the rest of your PUA life. How willing you are to fail is directly porportionate to how often you will succeed! We might fail this time, I don't know all the communications you've had with this girl, it might be the wrong time. But we'll never know if we don't try.

My attitude I have on this..."Some will, some won't, so what, NEXT!" Don't take it personally or anything if the answer is No just move on.

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