I get this impression that perhaps chicks would be more likely to want to see a guy (and see potential for a LTR) with a guy who simply number closed rather than kissed.

As if she kissed she may feel she doesn't have our respect as alot of chicks don't do that on the first date never mind with a guy they met in the bar/club.


What you guys/girls think?

Been thinking about this alot, its obviously tempting, but maybe not kiss closing a chick you could see yourself dating is a good idea. Hmmm

Kissing a girl is not a big deal at all! All girls kiss on the first date...if it's the right guy. So, let's make you the right guy!

You have to stop looking at kissing as a big deal. The more of a big deal you make it out to be in your mind the harder it gets to achieve it. Kissing is actually just a tool for you to use on your way to building comfort with this potential LTR.

The biggest thing here is when you don't start to kino escalate is you will find yourself in the friend zone very often. They start thinking you want to just be friends and not sexual since you don't pull the trigger. It's a good idea not only to get a kiss close but to get a number close when you first meet...by the way go ahead and setup the day 2 since she's so into you!

Game how you want to but not escalating when you have the window will hurt you more often than not.

Peace!

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Yeah man if you k-close, then n-close usually follows if she is actually into you. If she does both closes then she trusts you and a LTR is in sight most likely.
I think if she can kiss you the first time you meet then something is going well. Consequently number closing is assumed because she will want to see you again since she likes you so much. Then start dating blah blah blah

only if you really like her though