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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:19 am 
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I remember reading stuff about this earlier but I couldnt find it anywhere so I wanted to see if you can "rejog" my memory. So sometimes when you are number closing you ask for the HB's number but she responds with something like "You give me your number first". I've always thought this was supposed to be a shit test that you need to get past bc she is testing to see if your a wuss. Well this happened to me today when I was out at the bookstore...

I was talking to this HB 9 who turned out to be a model and it was going great. We talked for about 5 min before I said I had to go and meet my friends. Then I went for the n-close and said -- "Hey you seem like a cool girl, do you like to have fun? You should give me your number and i'll give you a call sometime when im out..." I took out my phone but then she pulled out hers and wanted to me to give mine to her. Now I thought this was a shit test so I immiediately replied "Don't worry, it'll be alright, you can give me your number". But after I said this she seemed shocked (in a bad way) :/ I tried to get it again but then she said something about not giving it to me because I said "don't worry" -- i guess she thought I was being creepy?? After this I was like whatever and just ejected.

I know its always painful to see what I COULD have done in the same situation so that I would have gotten her number. So what are some other good things to say in response to a shit test for number closing? Thanks for the help.

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hard situation, never happened to me but i would have said give me your number i'll call you so u get mine...usually works

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In my experience, when a chick wants your number, they are trying to be nice but won't ever call u back, but i try not to demand the number, instead I say something like,

"i have to go, want to continue this conversation another time?" then make her work out a method of communication


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You did sort of hurt yourself by directly asking for her number. You should have said something along the lines of "I had no idea you would actually be this interesting. Is there any way we could continue this conversation later?" or something similar that is more tailored to your colloquialisms. It works best to make it seem like her idea to swap numbers.

If she says "How about you give me your number?" Simply say "Actually I'm new to the area and will soon be changing my number to a local one." Simple fix, should work virtually every time.

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Whenever asking for a girls number, I get into the mindset that we've known each other for a while and we just havent exchanged them yet. I always make sure were in rapport, although I have tried some crazy things that worked.

It usually goes like..
PUA: Cool. I like how youre laid back and comfortable to be around. We should definitely hang out some time. Whats your number?


Note: even if she isnt that laid back and comfortable to be around, Im describing myself, and how she feels with me. by doing this she gets a sense that we have a connection. I do this a lot, complementing traits of hers that we both have in common. Subconsciously they become likeable traits in her mind, and she will like to see them in you even more. If its obvious that she isnt relaxed or whatever, Ill say I like your sense of humor. This is always the first complement I give her in the interaction. Before this I only neg playfully.


I ****SLOWLY**** (very important!!) pull out my phone as I ask "whats your number". This part is critical, you dont want to seem too excited to get her number.

Sometimes she will ignore my question and ask me for mine instead. She is trying to show that she doesnt just give her number to anyone, playing hard to get. In this case Ill say: "here, let me get yours and Im gonna give you a missed call anyway so you know its me when I give you a ring". I do give her a missed call either way so she has my number. I dont want to be that guy that gets girls numbers and doesnt give them his. In my experience that comes off as a player quality and girls dont answer as often. Also, I always text her before calling.

If she says, I dont give my number out to guys, its either one of 2 things.
1. You made a mistake long before asking for it - Not in how you asked for her number.
2. She is a cold, attention seeking whore that isnt tired of being chased yet. I find it to be just as great a success when weeding these girls out as it is when I #-close a cool girl. Im also glad I found this out sooner than later.

When she doesnt give me her number (aka shes a queen or i slipped somewhere). Ill say "hey, its cool. I thought you we were getting along great but its all good, it was nice talkin to you." (Credit to Lance, PU-101). Because a hotter, cooler girl will pass by later that will give me her number, and life goes on. I then start thinking about the BMW M3 that Im gonna buy once I get motivated enough to save the money.


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A good response to a number rejection or if they reject you on ' We should continue this conversation later" is to just shrug your shoulders and say

" Pff your loss" and give her a cheeky smile. It makes you look like you dont give a shit anyway and you keep your cool.

Im still new at this but i have used this about 4 times, and one time i got the response ' Why is it my loss?"

My reply was " give me your number and find out". Got the number.


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I use a line I got from David D
just keep a strait face "I don’t give my number out to strangers"....she will answer something along the lines of WTF , just explain to her that you would like to continue the conversation but you have had to many stalkers and you don’t give your number out
This has worked allot by acknowledging that you have stalkers you disqualify yourself as a possible stalker.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:51 am 
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I use a line I got from David D
just keep a strait face "I don’t give my number out to strangers"....she will answer something along the lines of WTF , just explain to her that you would like to continue the conversation but you have had to many stalkers and you don’t give your number out
This has worked allot by acknowledging that you have stalkers you disqualify yourself as a possible stalker.
Hear that.
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"Don't worry, it'll be alright, you can give me your number"
Now your delivery with this might have been sort of really bad. This should be done in a really funny way for it to work.

Its that sort of a reply that indicates shes being overly dramatic about giving out her number.

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I dont know how your convo at the bookstore went, but if the chick doesnt cough up her number when you ask its because you didnt generate enough (or any for that matter) attraction. Bust on her, let her know you dont give a fuck about her looks, if a chick tells me shes a model i act shocked and tell her i think shes a 3/10 on the looks scale but there still might be hope for us because i can look past her hideousness and i put em in check. Stay cocky/funny and stick to your guns. IF the chick is hesistant to give her number over, say something like "don't worry I'll only call you 13 times a day and breathe heavily in the phone". Alpha and in control baby!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:21 pm 
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My take on any resistance on number closing is this:

#1 reason for difficult # close: Sub par game. It's as simple as that. No matter what her policy is on giving out phone #'s, if Brad Pitt asked for her number she would be rushing to hand it to him.

#2 reason for difficult # close: Creepy/Awkward Way of Asking. If she is enjoying the interaction and then you say: "Hey, let me get your number" or worse "Can I have your phone number" her instincts will kick in and she will become naturally disinclined to hand it over.

#3 reason for difficult # close: Not enough time for comfort. Even if your game is really tight, some women are not inclined to give away their number if they arent comfortable with you first (note: this is not the case with all women).

#4 reason for difficult # close: Not seeding. If you seed your interaction with some activity that you are going to do then you have a legitimite reason to exchange phone numbers (ie. hey you should come with me to that Sushi place that I'm going to with my friends on Thursday).

A great way for a tight game litmus test is how she reacts to the # close. If she is reluctant, its probably reason #1. If you are POSITIVE that your game was on point then look to reasons 2-4.

I almost always ask in this way: "hey let me give you my information" Once they agree I say "lets trade phones" and she always hands it over.

Many women have issues SPAM their number but few have issues with getting a guys information.


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Many women have issues SPAM their number but few have issues with getting a guys information.
I have never really had issues on getting the girls phone number, my experience is this:

HB: *Toggles her number in my cellphone* Call me sometime ;)!


So no, its all about you and your "issues". Its not the woman who haves an issue SPAM her number, its all about your way of asking.

So lets put it this way:

Many men have issues on getting a womans number, but women don't have issues on getting a guys number.

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Quote:
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Many women have issues SPAM their number but few have issues with getting a guys information.
I have never really had issues on getting the girls phone number, my experience is this:

HB: *Toggles her number in my cellphone* Call me sometime ;)!


So no, its all about you and your "issues". Its not the woman who haves an issue SPAM her number, its all about your way of asking.

So lets put it this way:

Many men have issues on getting a womans number, but women don't have issues on getting a guys number.
I agree that it shouldnt be a sticking point after you get some sets under your belt. I disagree that it is usually your way of asking. See #1 reason for a bad # close. Bad game is usually the reason.


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i never show a phone and i tell them (if they ask) i just lost my phone (doing something fun... the beach, great adventure, snowboarding...). i ALWAYS carry a pen and something to write on. a shitty pen and old reciepts are perfect. it seems like spur of the moment, and not like you're getting her number on the same notepad you get every other girls number on. hand them to her so she can write it down. it's way easier and harder for them to say no because it's already happening. you're not waiting for them to recite numbers and anxiously writing them down like a fool. when the utensils are in front of her, pay attention to something else. after you get the number in your pocket, exit. this works every f'n time for me.

lately i've been taking only a pen and leaving the paper for her to find. it's been working unexpectedly well. they cant seem to find it fast enough.

i feel it's better to leave your phone out of the equation.


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Your situation actually happened to me once, so what I did is to call my own phone so I get hers too. Then I call her greedy for wanting everything for herself and that now it's just fair. ;)


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Credit to Style on this one, but a great way that I have field tested with a 90% success rate is utilize a memo pad. When you feel it is time to exchange contact information after you have seeded, pull out the memo pad like you know exactly what your doing. rip out a page, and tear it in half. give her one half and be like:

"I'm really bad with faces, can you draw me a picture of yourself so I can remember you more clearly?"

This works great because you alleviate some tension she may have when trying to figure out to do with the paper. By doing this you are IMPLYing that she give you her number, but arent being too direct about it.

Then, make fun of her drawing a little. Keep it fun.

If you do this after you have seeded properly, it will work like a charm.

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