OK i will share a quick story about how i met this girl and im looking for help how to move on from this position im in.

I went on a college and i met the girl there, the thing is i started playing this game 2 years ago and ive had awesome results, Im thankful to anyone, my life changed. On the college i had a nitro start, by getting an Fclose with 1 girl and K close with another in like 4 months of my study year, but i noticed this girl from the begining and i wanted to play her "safe". I became "the star" and the main hot shot in college. THey all noticed this and it feels great. The girl thats my target now was giving me IOIs, she even asked me to be her partner for graduation party in 4 years hh, even after she met me, all kinds of them, she is having fun with me, we are teasing, and now after 5 months of knowing each other i tried to move her to A3 phase and C1 and when i showed her an ioi, she was even more fired up, when i started kino, she started even hitting me randomly(IoI). So im moving in C1, but we havent kissed yet, some masages and touching, but i couldnt isolate her.

Ive set up a date, the first date went without k close she was kinda in a hurry, and when we went for a walk we had like 5 mins, and i noticed her body rocking and her hands were in her pockets, i tried to relax her but i couldve predicted she would reject the kiss, so the next week we were all together with our collegues and we went to my place i had to clean something up, we were not alone but at the end i isolated her as she was to exchange pictures with me, and she had me a mind blowing poem written, i forgot my picture, but i promised her ill give it to her next time we see each other, Again i started kino, some push pull, and when i went in for the kiss she turned her cheek and hugged me i continued playing the game like nothing happened. NOTE : I CANT DEFINE THIS CHICK
My goals are f close and even relationship if possible, because i fund her fun and its always cool having her around.

Ok so here s the short version:

+ She gives me IOIs (all kinds of them)
+ We are teasing
+ Kino goes well, but she breaks it sometimes, sometimes i break it
+ Im a DHV god, badboy, crimelord, intelligent badass in her eyes
+ She wrote me a poem that says we are like beauty and the beast, and we r on fire

- I couldnt k close on the first date, her bodylanguage was (naah not now)
- She sometimes says that she cant trust me ( in a joking mood)
- She rejected my k close when we were isolated and turned her chick on me.

After the k close rejection she went home, and now im supposed to give her my picture and write her back something, but my questions are:

* Why do i get k close rejection when its all going well and i get IOIs?
* How should i change my game from here ? She rejected my k close, we hang around with friends and she left home?


In my opinion i have 3 options

- going direct and asking her what does she want from me ? (comfort)
- Chill the whole tempo, and start acting cold or start gaming other girls and leave her a bit? (atrraction)
- Staying with the same energy and try to k close again. (Persistence)


Please help guys, i find this HB cool and i dont want to miss this shot, btw we are on the age of 19 yrs.

You're trying too hard to make something happen and now she knows that you're an option. You keep taking her rejections and coming back for more. Why keep going back? Let her come to you.

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So you suggest that i go colder with her? but how do i know when will she come to me, cause she gives me IOIs often, and she tries to impress me with things on which i give her ioi, (A rock band that she listens to, and she tries to include it in subjects that she listens to them, to remind me or she just wants an ioi ) that was my A3 part


Ok so its my turn now to return her a picture of me with text, she said all those things in a poem she wrote to me, and its like a 7 rows text i plan on giving her the picture and writing "I know" , and after that do you suggest that i back up a bit and let things happen spontaneously?? Thanks alot !

I'm saying don't be so needy by continuing to chase her. She won't even kiss you so all she really is is a friend that flirts with you. Will she come to you? Maybe, but you've already put yourself out there a few times.

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Thank you mate. I kinda felt like i didnt show enough interest because we had 1 date without k close and i was negging her alot before we went out on the date. It was like she was chasing me:

"I said if you give me (xxx) you cant put me in bed, you have to try harder"
and she replied by "I must start from somewhere" in a joking mood, this happened on the 1st date.

Going on a date is showing interest. Trying to kiss her absolutely shows that you had interest. If she were chasing you, she would have welcomed the kiss.

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Well she flirts with me for like 3-4 months, i didnt show any interest (my frame is "badboy") and than i advanced to A3 and than to Comfort zone, she became more excited, than i just asked her for a coffee normaly, and she accepted the date, she even called me earlier 30 min before the date, i didnt k close, but after few days, she texted me, and i told her to call me so we had a little talk flirt, she was putting "likes" on my fb and i was just ignoring her, than when we met she was a bit colder, and than ive set up a date/hangout with her and our other collegues, she was confused, the next day at college she was excited and she said she is coming this saturday and we can hangout and when i isolated her she rejected me, but continued laughing didnt say anything.. She came to my town to hangout, so i think thats an interest too from her side, the poem she wrote me was saying that i was giving her head aches and we are on fire bla bla, so there is verbal interest on her side, but i cant define her..

So there's this 20 year old girl, absolutely gorgeous. Unfortunately though she's the beautiful but shallow type. Doesn't have pretty much anything going for herself other than her looks, but at the time tolerating a bit of bad company was fine given her hyper sexuality.
Anyway, haven't talked to her in a while, but just yesterday I find out she basically played some Austrian dude into, overtime, funding her with over 70.000 Euros. Seventy. Thousand. Euros. And by the way, she's from a very small city. The average salary is about 300E per month, and with 10.000E you can buy yourself a huge 4 bedroom apartment no problem, just to put things into perspective here.

They never met face to face, mind you. Only Facebook. How did she do it? simple. She bullshitted the guy, probably sent a couple of nudes and a few declarations of interest. She even said he's the type of guy she'd marry.

70.000 euros later and this fucking moron finally picks up on the idea that he's the worlds' most gigantic tool.

The point of that story is to help you realize just how meaningless words are. I'm not saying she's playing you anywhere near that degree, or that she's playing you at all even, all I'm saying words in absence of actions mean shit.

Other than that, when you hang out with someone on a regular basis for a few months without showing clear sexual intent, you're friendzoning yourself. That's what you get for playing it "safe".
Is all this A3 to C1, negs, and every other bullshit you learned from the Mystery Method not mentally exhausting? not to mention highly ineffective. We're in 2016, so maybe it'd be a good idea to stop "playing the game" as if it were 2001.

Regardless, her actions were pretty clear. Had she seen you as a romantic option she would not have rejected a kiss. Then again maybe all the stupid mindgames led her into playing games of her own. Maybe somehow there is enough sexual tension between you two yet.
Either way, best thing to do is let her come to you.

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Thanks alot man for your opinion, but in my country the mentality is so much different than the one in USA or other European rich countries. So my thought was that the rejection was an ASD. Ever for the time ive known her 3-4 months ive never been close with her to avoid friendzone, also joked with her and never had long conversations, didnt feel like in Comfort zone at all. But she asked me to be her partner after 3 yrs for the graduation party.

Ok, and most of the ppl here and my friends suggested the same, that i leave her, and i did so, i just acted as she is some random collegue, she started opening conversations randomly with me, and she kinda started giving me alibi for where she is going this weekend what shes doing, even though i didnt ask her.

Now i have a dilemma because i wanted all this to be over with and not to feel like ive missed my shot, and im a guy with "balls" but i kinda lost my frame with her and i think that ruined my game, but after ignoring her feels like the game is yet on, and even if we read about Alpha males, we get what we want, and we finish what we start ? So she announced like 15 times that her BD is coming and she ll invite us n have a party, but thats in 3 months, and my dilema was to keep my Alpha male frame by becoming direct, telling her what i like in her, and that i dont care what her response will be.

My friend, it sounds like she is gaming you!!! She is setting the frames and has total control of the situation. Pick new mentors that have a more user friendly method. Try alex social, tyler rsd or Valentino kohen!?!?! Take some space away from her, and then re approach!

Thanks this seems most legit, because it seemed like she is trying to make me her bitch over time, thanks alot

Ill take time away from her, but just 1 more question, how do i react when she engages conversations ? Because she knows to call me when my fav soccer team plays just to provoke me as they lose often, or how do i act when she starts conversation with me at the college ? And now in few days my fav team plays against hers and i have a feeling she ll call me to say smth.