Hello

so after a few day-pickups , almost 10 numbers i am getting no where with most of them i started thinking about when i messed up , so first after getting the number what should you usually do guys i have this new sticking point well i managed to get passed it before but now after analyzing most of my pickups i figured out that this is where i used to mess up a lot ...

well how can you establish a good confort level without talking over texting/ calling much and get a second date , in most of those cases i have got 1 date , and 2 reschedules propositions from 2 girls and a flake and the other 6 were already nexted ...

any insight could be very helpfull to me guys ,
cheers bros!

Probably your not building enough attractionbefore getting her number. When I started, I was amazed to how easy I could talk to girls and get her numbers but I often forgot to build attraction, giving her a reason to wait for my calls or text.

Are you building enough attraction? What about your kino?

If you are spitting some lines and then getting the number, its most likely that she won't be interested in getting texts from you.

I hope that gives you another perspective my friend!

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I agree with the previous poster, getting a lot of numbers is a helpful start to game, but unless you lock in some solid attraction most of those numbers will be worthless. Also it worry's me when guys start focusing on "building comfort/rapport" while that is a useful component for mid/late game it has no real place before you establish a strong attraction foundation.

hello bros
thanks for your insights , i usually go direct when approaching and then try to make some jokes ect ... i wounder what should i do to seal the deal and get a very good attraction level , sometimes i feel that i am just having a normal discussion after the opener and that's it but sometimes like the last approach i did , she was asking me questions and continued talking even after getting her number , right now i am getting confused on how to get attraction high ...

How experienced are you with women? It depends on your personality. I am not sure how your pick ups go but try to be assertive and go with the topic.

Flirt with them. Be interesting in your own way. I struggled to but I kept talking to many girls until I finally understood the interaction and what to do.

Figure out if the girl is a listener or a talker. If she is a listener, tell her a story. If she likes to talk, tease her a little on what she says.

I once went out with a model. She was new to the country, the same as I was. I could see her in a corner all the time in our English class. She was extremely beautiful under my perception. I went to talk to her during a practice test. I finished the test first in the whole class and then went and sat down in front of her (The fact that I finished first demonstrated that at least I must study lol). I sat down in front of her and I looked her in her eyes and told her that I was able to help her since the professor gave me permission (That was BS but it worked). She smiled and said that she was having a really hard time trying to translate English in her language (Farsi) in her head. I smiled and told her I do the same thing but let me give you few secrets... and I shared some things with her.

Point of my little paragraph is that base on the situation (CLASS-school) I was able to show her that I was not dumb (Girls love to know that a guy can be smart) I was classy. I sat down in front of her and helped her (Nobody did approach her before). I express many things that she could relate to by story telling and always trying to flirt. Like saying, after you get your first A I get some ice cream from you, which she did take me for ice cream.

1. I showed that I had value, I was not a chump.
2. I was not afraid of helping her and she was getting my productive attention. Not attention from a horny man.
3. I always flirt. Smile, eye contact and depends on the situation some things come up.

Tell me more of your approaches and I can give you my opinion of how to build attraction but if you want a simple answer.

1. Show value - You are not another John Doe
2. Flirt.
3. Always leave her wanting more. After showing value, she knows you are a cool guy. She will want you to share more. Then you leave everything for other occasions. Like a TV show, they always cut it at the best part for you to wait eagerly for the next episode.

I hope that kind of gave you an idea of how to build attraction.

Let us know how it went.

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The first thing to remember is logistics usually trump attraction and you have very little control over logistics on a in-filed number close. This is only important in understanding some encounters wont work out through no fault of your own, the most useful indicator of your game is your success ratio in a large data set. So if a girl is laughing at your jokes and asking you questions that is a good indication of sufficient attraction (unless you are doing the funny, self-depreciating clown routine) , if you have a lot of those types of interactions your follow up percentages should be pretty strong. Most of the number game fails newbies make, the same ones I made when starting game, was getting girls numbers left and right as soon as I could, then inevitably, I would get very few text backs. This is the whole point of building stronger attraction rather then going for a large amount of low yield phone numbers.

Hello Bros

i didn't want to post a reply until i do an infield practice again , those last two days i have got 3 number closes most of the Nc i do get me responses when i contact them , they answer calls and text back first but when i try to go further for a first date sometimes i kinda make it clear that i want to meet up next so that my intentions are clear ... i am trying to not text a lot or talk over phone a lot .

that's what i suppose is my sticking point they are interested first then i don't know how to make it into a date , and afterwards things get cold and i get flakes or first dates only .

that's what i am trying to figure out now after getting sufficient attraction , what's best to get a day 2 talking and spending time texting calling or moving directly for a meet up

and thanks for your insights.

Well, like detox mentioned “Logistics”. Why don't you try of doing a bit more. My most successful pick ups were the ones that I took the girl different places the same day I met them.

If your mindset is just to get the number and then arrange a 2nd date, I think your making it a little difficult.

Once you feel you have attraction, suggest to move...walk around or even getting an ice cream or doing something.

I once was at Chipotle (A chain of Mexican food), the girl making my burrito was good looking and I wanted to get her. I studied the situation, is a cute girl, she gets hit on all day and probably doesn't feel like talking. I could get her number quick and blah she may text or maybe not. I opened with a joke before making my order, while she was putting ingredients I was openly flirting with her and when it was time to pay, in my mind clicked, I could ask for a number or ask her to sit down with me lol. Effectively, I did ask her to come and have lunch with me. For my fortune, her supervisor was behind her and I shut “boss can she take her lunch now,” the guy let her and we had a great convo and we met after work that day.

My point is, make things happen. If you meet a girl in an area, don't limit yourself to the number and that's it. Keep things going.

A tip, if you want to know when is time to take the number and leave, look at the girls feet. 95% of the time if the girls want you to stay, she would have her legs crossed. Believe and pay attention next time you interest with a girl. If her feet are pointing out away from you, that means she's ready to take off.

If you read the situation right and she wants you to keep going, move around. Girls like that. Lol that was just abtip.

As far as arranging 2nd dates. Keep it simple and show that you have something to offer.

Ex. Hey! This Saturday is all you can eat Italian at this restaurant. It looks like you have a good taste for food. Let's go! At 2pm.

Never gets me negative responses if I built attraction. If I didn't, she won't reply. Make it look casual and propose to meet them in daytime, often they're willing to meet you in public at a daytime then its game time my friend.

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I usually suggest an activity and go for the number at a high point in the interaction. This gives her a justification and more solid ground for a date in the future and she will most likely say yes because she is in a great state. I have them text me first so I know I have the right number and she is investing more upfront. I'll then stay for another few minutes if I don't plan on instant-dating them then so they don't feel like I just want to get the number. I'll keep the texting light and playful and set up logistics for the day 2 to see her ASAP while I'm still fresh in her mind. The longer I wait, the more unforeseen variables can disrupt the plan and the more likely her good state with me will start to lessen. Usually, I just set up drinks close to my place or their place so logistics are good and it sets the right mood.

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