Hey guys,

getting numbers on a consistent basis now (yay!) but they are all flakey (boo!) A few reasons I think they are flakey is attraction is weak (qualifying and comfort/rapport are middling), kino is pretty much non-existent and I am having trouble staying in set, although I did a 2-3 hour set the other night. What other issues do you think might be going on? In your experience, where are the flakey numbers coming from?

I think you nailed it. Flaky numbers come from a lack of investment when you get the number.

Build attraction, THEN get the number.

What are some good ways to build more attraction? I am uncomfortable flirting, but I am getting better. I tease at least a little now. I'm much better at daygame. I usually go direct or natural. At open mics, girls we'll open me, or at least give me an approach invitation.

After getting quite a few flaky numbers, I realise that that's partially the nature of the game. The less time and energy you invest in a girl, the less likely to get a "sticky" number. Girls will give out their number because they have few objections or like you a little at that moment. However, if you have NOT created a lasting impression, then your texts will go unanswered, just like the other 5 guys who also got her number that night!

Work on building a connection that night, being memorable, and spending a decent amount of time and venue bouncing etc. It will cut down on the amount of numbers you get, but also significantly decrease the chances of a flake.

For daygame environments, you need to build as close of a connection as you can during the short time you have together with her. Don't linger around forever either. Flirting, socially calibrated touching, good eye contact, teasing, not talking to her like she is your bff basically. Leave her wanting more.

Thanks for all the advice guys. This forum has been so helpful. Not really getting dates now, but I have so much more confidence and a better lifestyle. Girls around the office have noticed a difference, they are all starting to just offer to do things for me.