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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 pm 
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Over the past few months I've been working on a way to get a Day 2 directly into my house rather than meeting up for drinks or coffee. A majority of the time women are resistant to meet you at your place after a cold approach. They tend to want to go to a neutral spot first and even if they like you, they may resist going to your place that day. The technique I've been using has been based on the Influence book by Robert Cialdini. The basic principle is that people tend to want to stay consistent to the things that they say they'll do.

Yesterday afternoon, I was getting service done on my car and there was a girl that walked into the lobby while I was waiting. She was dressed in workout clothes, so I was assuming that she was on her way to or from the gym. She ended up in the waiting room with me and we were the only two people there. I ended up starting a conversation with her about working out and talked her into going over to starbucks with me. This turned into about a 45 minute coffee date and I got her to agree to go out with me to a bar that played live music(this was Plan B because I had no intention of going to this bar). I called her later to let her know what time we would be meeting up and to cement the attraction and selling her on good company rather than what we were going to do.

So today she opens me with a text message...
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So the key points to this technique is:

1. Get her to commit to meeting up.
2. Give her an activity to do for the Day 2.
3. Get her to believe that the Day 2 activity isn't what's really important and it's your company that is important.
4. Take away the activity (with a legitimate sounding reason) and replace it with your place and a different activity(keep it clean). After all, she's meeting up with you for your company and she will want to stay consistent with that. It shouldn't make a difference if it's at a bar, restaurant, coffee or on your couch.

Now she will be at my house tonight instead of at a bar.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:09 am 
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This is solid. My Day 2's are generally at the coffee shop 200 yards from my flat, so it's easy enough to bounce them back. But this is a good alternative. It's like skipping the foreplay and fast forwarding to the cumshot. I like it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:21 pm 
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Appreciate it Hunter and Charles.

I wasn't going to make this into a field report, but I'm thinking I have some stuff that I can pass on because I'm pretty sure it's repeatable for just about everyone. I am putting in bold the important moments that I believe ensure seduction.

The girl shown up at my house that evening. First thing I do is pull her in for a hug (standard procedure). A few minutes of chit chat and she asks for a tour of my house(I always take this as an IOI because in my mind there's only one room that really matters in her mind...the bedroom). We do the grand tour and we end up back downstairs on the couch. I offer her something to drink and she accepted and we proceeded to have a conversation about her work, family, and dating...I really didn't have to say too much. Once she started running out of things to say, I asked her the following question and I normally ask this to most women:

"Let's say you and I are sitting here again a year from now, what three things did I do to make you want to stay around for a year?"

She responded with (paraphrasing), "Wow, that's a good question. Probably knowing how to treat me, faithful, and amazing sex."

I like asking that question because no matter what I can mimic her answer and when she turned the question on me, that's what I did. "Knowing how to treat a man, trustworthy, and great sex."

At some point I told her that she could pick out a movie and point out the shelf where I keep my collection. I have the Kama Sutra book strategically placed on that shelf, so it catches her eye (the first time a woman saw that book, I felt like I was caught doing something wrong. That was stupid thinking back then.). I see her eyes focus on it but she comes back with a movie and I start it.

We sit on the couch together as the movie starts and I turned her head with my finger towards me and I kissed her. I then pulled her next to me so I could have my around her waist while we watched the movie. About 10 or 15 minutes into the movie I started kissing her neck and she let out that "mmm" sound and that was my signal for the makeout to begin. We make out for another 15 to 20 minutes and I tell her that we need to stop and she agreed. Then we laughed about how we had no idea of what's going on with the movie. Then she asked me about the book. She asked if I've ever done anything in the book and I told her a few and returned the question towards her. Her response was exactly, "Honey, I don't need a book." I had no response for that, so I just pulled her in and started kissing her again.

At some point she was on top of me grinding. So without getting too graphic about the rest of the activities...fclose on the couch and again in my bedroom.

Today she called me with her marketing campaign telling me that she had a good time but that's not normally how she is on a first date. She gave me some garbage about how guys normally wait weeks/months before sex.

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Awesome stuff dude ! Cheers
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Appreciate it Hunter and Charles.

I wasn't going to make this into a field report, but I'm thinking I have some stuff that I can pass on because I'm pretty sure it's repeatable for just about everyone. I am putting in bold the important moments that I believe ensure seduction.

The girl shown up at my house that evening. First thing I do is pull her in for a hug (standard procedure). A few minutes of chit chat and she asks for a tour of my house(I always take this as an IOI because in my mind there's only one room that really matters in her mind...the bedroom). We do the grand tour and we end up back downstairs on the couch. I offer her something to drink and she accepted and we proceeded to have a conversation about her work, family, and dating...I really didn't have to say too much. Once she started running out of things to say, I asked her the following question and I normally ask this to most women:

"Let's say you and I are sitting here again a year from now, what three things did I do to make you want to stay around for a year?"

She responded with (paraphrasing), "Wow, that's a good question. Probably knowing how to treat me, faithful, and amazing sex."

I like asking that question because no matter what I can mimic her answer and when she turned the question on me, that's what I did. "Knowing how to treat a man, trustworthy, and great sex."

At some point I told her that she could pick out a movie and point out the shelf where I keep my collection. I have the Kama Sutra book strategically placed on that shelf, so it catches her eye (the first time a woman saw that book, I felt like I was caught doing something wrong. That was stupid thinking back then.). I see her eyes focus on it but she comes back with a movie and I start it.

We sit on the couch together as the movie starts and I turned her head with my finger towards me and I kissed her. I then pulled her next to me so I could have my around her waist while we watched the movie. About 10 or 15 minutes into the movie I started kissing her neck and she let out that "mmm" sound and that was my signal for the makeout to begin. We make out for another 15 to 20 minutes and I tell her that we need to stop and she agreed. Then we laughed about how we had no idea of what's going on with the movie. Then she asked me about the book. She asked if I've ever done anything in the book and I told her a few and returned the question towards her. Her response was exactly, "Honey, I don't need a book." I had no response for that, so I just pulled her in and started kissing her again.

At some point she was on top of me grinding. So without getting too graphic about the rest of the activities...fclose on the couch and again in my bedroom.

Today she called me with her marketing campaign telling me that she had a good time but that's not normally how she is on a first date. She gave me some garbage about how guys normally wait weeks/months before sex.


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Good stuff. There are TWO good options for what to do after you have the number:

1. Get her to meet you at your place or her place, or

2. Meet her somewhere very, very close to your place for a quick easy pull.

I'd argue it's about 60/40 as far as girls coming straight over. If you are very direct and sexual, so the woman knows what the deal is before you even ask for the number, then it's fairly easy to get her over straight away if she's into it.

Meeting nearby is also a great option because you can feel each other out and if you like each other, go back to your place in 10 or 15 minutes from meeting.


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Good stuff. There are TWO good options for what to do after you have the number:

1. Get her to meet you at your place or her place, or

2. Meet her somewhere very, very close to your place for a quick easy pull.

I'd argue it's about 60/40 as far as girls coming straight over. If you are very direct and sexual, so the woman knows what the deal is before you even ask for the number, then it's fairly easy to get her over straight away if she's into it.

Meeting nearby is also a great option because you can feel each other out and if you like each other, go back to your place in 10 or 15 minutes from meeting.
I probably wasn't too clear on why I've been testing this technique out.
1. Women don't normally want to meet you at your house or her house on a day 2, unless a significant amount of time has gone by while you are talking to her on a regular basis.
2. Even if you do get her to meet up at a place nearby, there is often resistance to go back to your place. So if she does go back, it's either because she is DTF or she goes in with a resistance mindset.
3. An initial invite to your place after a cold approach is more often turned down because they don't feel like they know you or trust you yet.

When I started to use this technique, I come across as the guy that just wants to take her out on a date (normal, nothing to resist). I talk to her and increase attraction, so now she is more excited about a date with me and now she's getting more comfortable with me at the same time. Now she's more excited about meeting up and when I change venue to my house she's not resistant to the idea because the reasoning behind it doesn't cause her to put up a shield.

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Good stuff. There are TWO good options for what to do after you have the number:

1. Get her to meet you at your place or her place, or

2. Meet her somewhere very, very close to your place for a quick easy pull.

I'd argue it's about 60/40 as far as girls coming straight over. If you are very direct and sexual, so the woman knows what the deal is before you even ask for the number, then it's fairly easy to get her over straight away if she's into it.

Meeting nearby is also a great option because you can feel each other out and if you like each other, go back to your place in 10 or 15 minutes from meeting.
I probably wasn't too clear on why I've been testing this technique out.
1. Women don't normally want to meet you at your house or her house on a day 2, unless a significant amount of time has gone by while you are talking to her on a regular basis.
2. Even if you do get her to meet up at a place nearby, there is often resistance to go back to your place. So if she does go back, it's either because she is DTF or she goes in with a resistance mindset.
3. An initial invite to your place after a cold approach is more often turned down because they don't feel like they know you or trust you yet.

When I started to use this technique, I come across as the guy that just wants to take her out on a date (normal, nothing to resist). I talk to her and increase attraction, so now she is more excited about a date with me and now she's getting more comfortable with me at the same time. Now she's more excited about meeting up and when I change venue to my house she's not resistant to the idea because the reasoning behind it doesn't cause her to put up a shield.
Eh, #1 is not true in my experience. If you communicate your intent properly, there is no reason why a woman wouldn't sleep with you right away besides logistics. "Talking to them on a regular basis" is for boyfriends, so I just ping and they're usually down. #2 is true, they resist a little, but of course they want you to win because men and women are on the same team and both desire good sex and fun experiences. #3 isn't really a blockade if they really want to have sex with you.

Sounds like what you do is working for you though, so what do I know?


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#1 is not true in my experience. If you communicate your intent properly, there is no reason why a woman wouldn't sleep with you right away besides logistics.
This is one of those challenge moments. Communicating your intent properly is thrown around a lot and I'm starting to realize that some people say it because they know that's what they should do without actually knowing how to do it. Can you give an example on how you communicate intent?

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#1 is not true in my experience. If you communicate your intent properly, there is no reason why a woman wouldn't sleep with you right away besides logistics.
This is one of those challenge moments. Communicating your intent properly is thrown around a lot and I'm starting to realize that some people say it because they know that's what they should do without actually knowing how to do it. Can you give an example on how you communicate intent?
For example, "You're so fucking sexy, look what it's doing to me" and putting her hand on my boner. Blaming it on her, telling her we'd already be naked if we were in private, things of that nature.

If a girl can't tell whether you want to befriend, marry or fuck her, then you're not doing it right.


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For example, "You're so fucking sexy, look what it's doing to me" and putting her hand on my boner. Blaming it on her, telling her we'd already be naked if we were in private, things of that nature.
My experience has taught me that being overtly sexual, as you describe it, turns more women off than it helps. There is a big difference between seduction and outright stating that you want to fuck. The fact of the matter is that it is easier to fuck a girl without telling her that you want to fuck.

What you're saying is a recipe for ASD. If men and women are on the same team, as you say, what's the point in making it more difficult for your teammate?
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If a girl can't tell whether you want to befriend, marry or fuck her, then you're not doing it right.
While this is a nice statement to read, it's nothing but bullshit advice. The reason being is that the moment you tell a woman what it actually is that you want from her, she has leverage over you and she'll make you work that much harder to get what you want because you have given her a measurable value. Fuck her first and then let her ask what you want from her.

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The reason being is that the moment you tell a woman what it actually is that you want from her, she has leverage over you and she'll make you work that much harder to get what you want because you have given her a measurable value.
If you think women need to be "tricked" into having sex with attractive men, then it's no surprise you need to call them twice a day for two weeks before they'll have sex with you. Learning pick-up properly means becoming a man women want to have sex with, not being a clown who's just not-obnoxious enough for them to have reluctant drunken sex with.

The reason is that you're beta to them and letting them dictate the course of the discussion. It's obvious from your language, "make you work that much harder." This implies you are working hard, as a result of her making you do it. Who's the boss in that situation?

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If you think women need to be "tricked" into having sex with attractive men, then it's no surprise you need to call them twice a day for two weeks before they'll have sex with you. Learning pick-up properly means becoming a man women want to have sex with, not being a clown who's just not-obnoxious enough for them to have reluctant drunken sex with.
How can I respond to something that I didn't say. I used one example in this thread and it and it was a Tuesday-Wednesday scenario that consisted of one phone call.
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The reason is that you're beta to them and letting them dictate the course of the discussion. It's obvious from your language, "make you work that much harder." This implies you are working hard, as a result of her making you do it. Who's the boss in that situation?
Why not put my whole statement in there and put it into the context that was really implied.

I want you to pay attention to what you actually say when it comes to expressing your intentions before you get a phone number
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For example, "You're so fucking sexy, look what it's doing to me" and putting her hand on my boner. Blaming it on her, telling her we'd already be naked if we were in private, things of that nature.
This is Grade A bullshit. What's worse is that you are peddling that shit out to some desperate guy that's going to get himself arrested and put on a sex offender's list. I knew that you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about when you spoke of communicating intention, but you are worse than those guys that send an uninvited dick pic thinking that will put you over the top.

LMFAO...Where did you get that saddle for your keyboard?

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If you think women need to be "tricked" into having sex with attractive men, then it's no surprise you need to call them twice a day for two weeks before they'll have sex with you. Learning pick-up properly means becoming a man women want to have sex with, not being a clown who's just not-obnoxious enough for them to have reluctant drunken sex with.
How can I respond to something that I didn't say. I used one example in this thread and it and it was a Tuesday-Wednesday scenario that consisted of one phone call.
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The reason is that you're beta to them and letting them dictate the course of the discussion. It's obvious from your language, "make you work that much harder." This implies you are working hard, as a result of her making you do it. Who's the boss in that situation?
Why not put my whole statement in there and put it into the context that was really implied.

I want you to pay attention to what you actually say when it comes to expressing your intentions before you get a phone number
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For example, "You're so fucking sexy, look what it's doing to me" and putting her hand on my boner. Blaming it on her, telling her we'd already be naked if we were in private, things of that nature.
This is Grade A bullshit. What's worse is that you are peddling that shit out to some desperate guy that's going to get himself arrested and put on a sex offender's list. I knew that you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about when you spoke of communicating intention, but you are worse than those guys that send an uninvited dick pic thinking that will put you over the top.

LMFAO...Where did you get that saddle for your keyboard?
LOL Ok buddy, you keep dancing like a monkey who's too scared to tell a girl he's interested...and I'll keep swooping in after you and using your clownishness as my opener ;)


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LOL Ok buddy, you keep dancing like a monkey who's too scared to tell a girl he's interested...and I'll keep swooping in after you and using your clownishness as my opener
That's the best you can do now, but I understand. You've made some outlandish claims that you can't recover from, so instead you move to insulting me personally...it's ego and I get it. Believe it or not, I'm on your side and want you to be successful with women but the first thing you need to do is let go of the dumb shit and learn how to be an attractive man. I'll help you.

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