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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:05 am 
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So I've been gaming for the past month or so, doing just pure cold approaches. End up talking to a hb8 stranger, ran solid game for an hour and a half until the bar closed. Ended up number + facebook closing (lame, I know), and didn't bother doing anything from there.

A week later, saw her out again at the same bar and hit it off again. Learnt alot from my mistakes and was a lot more direct ("Just a heads up, I'm going to kiss you by the end of the night", really fun thing to say and worked really well). Ended up going to hers for the night, but didn't fuck.

We made out alot and I wrestled around, for literally hours. However every time it started escalating and she started getting into it, she'd just pull herself back abruptly and start talking. This happened heaps of times, then she started opening up alot about her life and problems and all of that. I listened, and talked back a bit because I'm not an asshole, and she obviously wasn't interested in a one night stand. She told me she didn't want me to just leave the next day.

So my question is, and like I said didn't anticipate this getting into game...... How do you be a confident, attractive fun guy around woman and get them to want to fuck you, but not like you in a relationship kind of way. My mate literally encountered this EXACT same scenario the same night as me for the first time as well, and now she wants to date him. He wants the same as me, both 19 and way too young for this shit. How do you make it obviously about sex without coming off as creepy and making her make an early conscious decision as to whether she wants to fuck or not?


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Without coming off creepy?

Slowing down the escalation when she is not comfortable, getting more investment to make her feel as it you matter more, some rapport breaks to cycle her to seduce you, etc.

A lot of things could have been done. But, it could also be she just is the type of girl who will not do a ONS, no matter what. Although the minority, some girls are like that. Unless you hit all of her qualities she wants in a man in Attraction, you often can't later change her idea of no sex on the first night. This often can be set by you coming off as boyfriend type as well.

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So I've been gaming for the past month or so, doing just pure cold approaches. End up talking to a hb8 stranger, ran solid game for an hour and a half until the bar closed. Ended up number + facebook closing (lame, I know), and didn't bother doing anything from there.

A week later, saw her out again at the same bar and hit it off again. Learnt alot from my mistakes and was a lot more direct ("Just a heads up, I'm going to kiss you by the end of the night", really fun thing to say and worked really well). Ended up going to hers for the night, but didn't fuck.

We made out alot and I wrestled around, for literally hours. However every time it started escalating and she started getting into it, she'd just pull herself back abruptly and start talking. This happened heaps of times, then she started opening up alot about her life and problems and all of that. I listened, and talked back a bit because I'm not an asshole, and she obviously wasn't interested in a one night stand. She told me she didn't want me to just leave the next day.

So my question is, and like I said didn't anticipate this getting into game...... How do you be a confident, attractive fun guy around woman and get them to want to fuck you, but not like you in a relationship kind of way. My mate literally encountered this EXACT same scenario the same night as me for the first time as well, and now she wants to date him. He wants the same as me, both 19 and way too young for this shit. How do you make it obviously about sex without coming off as creepy and making her make an early conscious decision as to whether she wants to fuck or not?
Start talking about it earlier. If she spends hours talking and kissing with a guy she imagines as a future boyfriend, then it's way to late to turn it around into a fuck-buddy or a hook-up.

Try this: "When I meet girls I'm really just looking for someone fun, free spirited. I've been with girls and it got too heavy too fast, and then it's all fucked up... you know?"

Then she tells you what she is thinking and you calibrate.


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