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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:35 am 
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When you get a girl's number, after waiting a day, you should CALL her. Texting is completely un-romantic and lame. After I learned this tip my success rate rose immediately.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:17 pm 
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I'm getting 2-4 numbers when I game and only ever text, with a success rate of 20% I've been figuring out what's going wrong. Next step is to call instead, I'll do that after my next night and see how I get on. A bit desperate to call after I've text though I reckon...

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:30 am 
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Amen. I am shocked by how guys refuse to call and would rather send out lamo texts


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:55 pm 
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I find a text immediately and THEN a call the next day works best.

Agreed that gaming via text just simply takes too long... and most girls have 4 or 5 guys hitting them up that exact way - so unless you're fucking Jerry Seinfeld, you're not gonna stand out.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:35 pm 
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I find a text immediately and THEN a call the next day works best.
Oh yeah, if one were to follow this sort of sequence remember the first text should be, "Hi, this is ___, from the other night." You can make this funny if you want to.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:01 am 
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You'll actually find some girls are too shy to take a call from an almost stranger.

That can easily work against you in many interactions. If you are a guy who likes your shy, demure Asian girls for example, you can completely forget about calling them. But, if you are like me and like feisty confident south american women, then you should be calling.

Why don't you just ask? When you are putting her number in your phone, just say 'so are you a calling or a texting type of girl?' They'll always answer honestly, and you don't have to guess. Even better about that question is it follows the law of consistency and hence increases the likelyhood of her not flaking.

A few years ago we went out and got 300 surveys completed in the streets talking to hot women. We asked them all kinds of questions about men. Preferred first dates, shaven or rugged etc. Anyway, text or call was one of the those questions. Women were quite divided, and age was a really good indicator, older women are more confident and would rather men call, while younger women were less confident and often preferred to be texted first.

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Why don't you just ask? When you are putting her number in your phone, just say 'so are you a calling or a texting type of girl?' They'll always answer honestly, and you don't have to guess. Even better about that question is it follows the law of consistency and hence increases the likelyhood of her not flaking.

A few years ago we went out and got 300 surveys completed in the streets talking to hot women. We asked them all kinds of questions about men. Preferred first dates, shaven or rugged etc. Anyway, text or call was one of the those questions. Women were quite divided, and age was a really good indicator, older women are more confident and would rather men call, while younger women were less confident and often preferred to be texted first.

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Why don't you just ask? When you are putting her number in your phone, just say 'so are you a calling or a texting type of girl?' They'll always answer honestly, and you don't have to guess. Even better about that question is it follows the law of consistency and hence increases the likelyhood of her not flaking.

A few years ago we went out and got 300 surveys completed in the streets talking to hot women. We asked them all kinds of questions about men. Preferred first dates, shaven or rugged etc. Anyway, text or call was one of the those questions. Women were quite divided, and age was a really good indicator, older women are more confident and would rather men call, while younger women were less confident and often preferred to be texted first.

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shit contribution. if surveys told anything interesting than there would be no puas or gaming or humans.
girls also love nice guys and shit. that's what they say in surveys. in real life they aren't attracted to them and friendzone them and the nice guy dies virgin.
"They'll always answer honestly" LOL. no comments.
"ask" sure go ahead act like beta asking permissions for things and not acting like alpha like doing wtv u want.
"300 surveys completed" most complete survey I ever seen in my entire life. very scientific and shit. really large sample. 300. -.-

it's just absurd.
don't be a pussy. always:

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shit contribution. if surveys told anything interesting than there would be no puas or gaming or humans.
girls also love nice guys and shit. that's what they say in surveys. in real life they aren't attracted to them and friendzone them and the nice guy dies virgin.
"They'll always answer honestly" LOL. no comments.
"ask" sure go ahead act like beta asking permissions for things and not acting like alpha like doing wtv u want.
"300 surveys completed" most complete survey I ever seen in my entire life. very scientific and shit. really large sample. 300. -.-

it's just absurd.
don't be a pussy. always:

CALL!!!!

You are easily threatened, and get emotional when challenged. That's a fear response you know? It shows your confidence in your answer isn't very high, but you desperately need to believe it.

I do this for a living, and get to witness firsthand the fact that simply always calling or always texting is never as effective as having a strategy to determine which will work best on her. And asking doesn't lower your value. If it does, you have serious problems elsewhere with your game anyway.

If you are in this game for long enough you realise there are absolutely 0 rigid rules that you can play by. Women are not all the same, and you can't use identical tactics every time and expect to get consistently good results.

I've had a student get consistently laid, opening girls at night with: "Hey, I'm so nervous right now, but I really wanted to say hello so my friends pushed me in here". I've also had a student who consistently got laid at night with the opener 'hey girls, do you like anal sex?'. Neither opener I'm very fond of, and if I used either of those lines myself it wouldn't go nearly as well as if I just did things my way, but it nicely demonstrates the reality that for different guys who hit of different types of girls, vastly different strategies can work a charm.

Talking in absolutes is what you do when you are desperate for some solid answers to hold onto.

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This other guy is on almost every thread spouting BS. I just ignore him. He thinks he is clever or something but he doesn't realize people don't see the same value in his attitude that he does.


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This other guy is on almost every thread spouting BS. I just ignore him. He thinks he is clever or something but he doesn't realize people don't see the same value in his attitude that he does.
Unknownpoet isn't bad. He's an example of someone still plugged into the system. He's an easy target but he does make points that are worth considering.

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This other guy is on almost every thread spouting BS. I just ignore him. He thinks he is clever or something but he doesn't realize people don't see the same value in his attitude that he does.
fyi I receive pm's almost everyday of people thanking me for my posts. that despite the fact that some do that in the threads.

also the BS is in the guy that bases opinion on a shitty survey with an absurd 300 sample. I base my experience in my over 5k approaches and by sharing experiences with other experienced puas. my success rate is 100%. I can get any girl I want. it's real life bro.
ALWAYS CALL. I don't ever text. only if there's a very strong reason not to. like, she's deft or something. if I call she doesn't answer she will call or text back.
always call. don't be an afc. don't be like all the other guys that texted her too. also, voice communication is so much more valuable. 80% of the communication is non verbal. you can understand loads of things just by paying attention to what kind of words is she saying, how is the pitch the tone the cadence the speed etc.
the only reason why the op doesn't call it's because he's a pussy. grow some balls and always call. I'm 100% sure it will have much more success. girl being shy etc? that's just excuses. never ever I got a phone call rejected. they always want to know more about me.

so the BS is really you. not me.


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fyi I receive pm's almost everyday of people thanking me for my posts. that despite the fact that some do that in the threads.
You don't have to qualify yourself to me man.


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