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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:19 pm 
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OK I put "loser" in quotes because I do have some inner game, I do consider myself intelligent and interesting and a joy for a woman to be with, and lately I've been doing great building a social life in general, getting myself into a big coed social circle that regularly goes clubbing, getting back in touch with hs friends, and turning hs female acquaintances into friends that support me and want to hang out with me. I also performed at an open mic recently to great applause, and I'm in talks with a woman who's a dating coach to do various work for her, so I do have some cool things in the works ,and have gotten really good at getting men and women on my side about all of it.

Now the less sexy aspects of my life : I have struggled with computer game addiction for many years, I've historically been afraid of my own success, I'm very intelligent but I haven't managed to stay dedicated to a path, be it college, career or working out. Most recently, I got into a rut getting sucked back into computer games, and I was late so many times to my minimum wage day job that I got fired from it. Right now my mom supports me, which is hard for her and hard for my ego and self esteem as a man. I def notice the impact on my confidence with women. I've never had my own car, I have a license and I drove my mom's car until one reached EOL and another was totaled. When I meet a woman, I usually inspire enough trust to have her let me drive her car even the first night I meet her.

When a woman asks what I do, these days I tell her I'm a freelance writer. When she digs deeper, I tell her that I used to be shy and socially awkward and one of my clients is a woman who helps other guys take the same path I have to come out of their shells. She is usually impressed and supportive the way I convey it. But the truth is that I haven't even begun to edit or write for anyone. The dating coach is looking increasingly serious, we have discussed pay and she has driven across town to meet in person and discuss details of writing, editing and other projects (possibly approach sessions and mock dates down the road) . The point is, none of this is tangible and resulting in financial independence and stability right now. Right now, I:

1) don't have a car
2) dont have a job
3) depend on my mom

The reason I put this in the day 2 section is because there's a particular very good looking girl I attracted through a a dhv preselection -infused pic on Facebook of me with one of her friends on each side. My text and phone game has been great, she is initiating convo with me daily and we have agreed to go downtown tomorrow night for a first date. She wants to salsa dance with me and she's been telling me how she's a good kisser and gives the best massages, I mean I don't see it being an awkward first date.

However, though I've been honest with her about the fact I'm gonna start giving guys advice for women professionally (and she supports that), I have not yet told her about 1, 2 and 3 listed above. Obviously she's gonna find out tomorrow that I don't have a car one way or another. I'm thinking the way ill handle that is just to text her my address and tell her what time to pick me up, with a strong frame like it's the normal thing to do. If she questions it I might say "I don't have a car right now. If u want me to sweep u off your feet, you'll have to provide the horse for now."

Any thoughts? And if she's as high quality as she presents herself, I can see myself entering an ongoing sexual relationship and possibly making her my gf, so in that light, how and when should I present all 3 aspects of where I am in life right now?

PS I had my mom take away my laptop a couple weeks ago so I could get away from the computer games and get my life back on track. I've been making great progress socially, but not as much in health or wealth. I know I need to strike a better balance, even the dating coach ill be working for says I'm too obsessed with the game, but my question here is how to best present my current situation as it stands.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:27 pm 
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1)Dont have a car.
2)Dont fucking have my own home.
3)Dont have a job.
4)Im a student...
5)Im adult.

I NEVER lost poinst on these. How? Because im a student... everyone knows students got no money, doesnt have the luxery for a car and a nice looking home. So, if you got a good excuse and you believe on it, there is no way, you will get yourself in a bad posistion.

But if you are sorry, because of your situation, nobody will respect you(when you even cant respect yourself). Dont be your own enemy, money, career etc. is the last thing that plays a role. Its all about confiedence.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:36 pm 
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There's nothing wrong with being unemployed as long as you have a solid plan of how to get out of it. If she can see you have the drive to succeed, she won't care if you're between jobs, especially if she is financially independent herself.

You plan to be a writer but how are you going to market it, where will your work be published, how and how much will you get paid, which publishers are looking for your kind of material etc. You have a problem with procrastination. Sort that problem first. This is probably one of the few occasions where I would recommend that pickup / women should take a lower priority in your life. You are a long way off your goals if you haven't even started writing yet.

Honesty is the way forward for this girl. You don't have to tell her about playing computer games or losing your job, but setting yourself up as a writer could be attractive. But writers need to write to make a living!

Ps. Delete all games from your computer to kill the urge.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:41 pm 
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Thanks a lot guys, that makes me feel better about it. There was a time when I couldn't look a girl in the eye when telling her what my regular day job was when I had one. My inner frame has def strengthened, but u guys just gave it an extra boost. Thanks and may the force be with u as well :D.


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