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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:42 am 
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Hello again, it's the guy from yesterday who has a supposedly interested girl with a BF on his hands.
Today was day 3 and we went out for a walk in the park. A pretty poor choice for a date but we had to make do with it for Sunday morning.

In my opinion it didnt go as good as day 2 in the coffee shop. We had to walk alot because she didnt have much time for sitting around due to yoga class afterwards, so I used the short time on the bench to micro-escalate. When we got up to walk back i applied the 60yoc test - hand caressing. I took her hand while we were walking and she didnt seem so eager about it. She didnt really hold on and pulled away shortly after. Strike one, i thought. Then i figured i could just go in for a goodbye kiss before heading home but she was in too big of a hurry for me to even try anything beyond the hug she gave me. Apart from that the conversation bored me pretty quickly and she was the one who contributed the most to it (person talking is the one qualifying, right?).

I feel bad for pussying out like that and ignoring 60's advice that the second try has a much higher chance for success, and putting in the fact that she's still probably into me makes it a bit worse. Too much comfort and not enough tension?

So, my question is which one of the following cards should i play:

1. Go cold on her for a day or two, then resume conversation and try again on the third meeting

2. Give her the whats-going-on-with-us speech and risk her playing the BF card and generally rejecting me.

3. Go overboard before reaching Oneitisville, Friends Isle.

Thanks in advance,
The D-Man


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:54 am 
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Hello again, it's the guy from yesterday who has a supposedly interested girl with a BF on his hands.
Today was day 3 and we went out for a walk in the park. A pretty poor choice for a date but we had to make do with it for Sunday morning.

In my opinion it didnt go as good as day 2 in the coffee shop. We had to walk alot because she didnt have much time for sitting around due to yoga class afterwards, so I used the short time on the bench to micro-escalate. When we got up to walk back i applied the 60yoc test - hand caressing. I took her hand while we were walking and she didnt seem so eager about it. She didnt really hold on and pulled away shortly after. Strike one, i thought. Then i figured i could just go in for a goodbye kiss before heading home but she was in too big of a hurry for me to even try anything beyond the hug she gave me. Apart from that the conversation bored me pretty quickly and she was the one who contributed the most to it (person talking is the one qualifying, right?).
the person who is trying to impress and gain approval is the person trying to qualify for the other person

you are on a day 3 and you haven't even tried to kiss her?
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I feel bad for pussying out like that and ignoring 60's advice that the second try has a much higher chance for success, and putting in the fact that she's still probably into me makes it a bit worse. Too much comfort and not enough tension?
don't feel bad man, happens to the best of us, you just have to stop caring about it working or not, NEEDING it to work, will put you in the wrong mind frame, you have to get more girls on the line so that it not working out with one girl doesn't matter, think about this situation

you are attached to the outcome with a girl who isn't screening well and has a boyfriend, like how likely do you think this is realistically going to play out?, the logistics are shit, and she is not testing well for compliance, and you are investing yourself into this as your main and probably ONLY focus?

why?...

you realize it would probably be 100x easier to just go out and make about 20 approaches and find a girl who is single that tests well for compliance earlier, then trying to bump up a non compliant girl that already screened bad (try out that 60yoc handshake as your opener to test if you should keep talking to her instead of your day 3 massive step towards escalation)
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So, my question is which one of the following cards should i play:

1. Go cold on her for a day or two, then resume conversation and try again on the third meeting

2. Give her the whats-going-on-with-us speech and risk her playing the BF card and generally rejecting me.

3. Go overboard before reaching Oneitisville, Friends Isle.

Thanks in advance,
The D-Man
she has a boyfriend for one, so theres a good chance if you don't already know what you are doing there, you are not going to swing this

the issue with boyfriends is not, ''is she attracted'' it's ''can frame this well enough to convince her that it's the *right thing*'' and take the responsibility off her

next thing is you are WAY WAY WAY too needy here, it's like you HAVE to get this girl, as if there are no other girls out there or something, you MUST, get this girl at all costs

why not just actually escalate the next time you see her, you most likely will reach a compliance threashold and she will say I have a boyfriend, but it's a barrier, it's how you deal with the situation after the fact and convince her this isn't and issue and there will be no social consecenses for her actions that matter, rather then the initial barrier it's self, could it all go terribly wrong? yes of coarse, could it all go amazingly well? yes of coarse, you won't know until you try, and to fuck her eventually your dick is going to have to leave your pants and she is going to have to be into that and cooperate for it to end in P into V, there is no sneaky way, or top secret attraction you can build, if she doesn't want to cheat and your game sucks and you can't convince her, she will not be convinced, there is no top secret tactic you could learn in a day to change your personality and how comfortable and experienced you are in these sorts of situations

you have to give it your best shot, and see what happens, learn from the success/failure and carry the experience with you,

as a side note, you could just put this girl on hold, game other girls, and stay in touch keeping contact to a minimum and get back on this when she is single


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:33 pm 
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Thanks for the myriad of advice. Did i mention we are both teens, so this might turn out to be far more insignificant than before. The situation became a big ego bet on my part because i never really cared about such shit up until a girl shows interest again (this time even more overt than the last one).

Anyways, i see that going on a third "date" would bring me little success. I think i should just take it to one of us' homes, as I never really want a relationship. If anyone has tips about turning this situation into a FWB or even a one-time fling, it's what i would utilize.


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