She's young. We have great conversation and good personality. She is healthy, ambitious and well balanced.

One thing I am doing, which I think is really important in keeping me in the game and I learned from the PUA's is this: "Talk to her and deal with her like I have 10 awesome girls in my life."

So I know I have this girl on a pedestal. So my thought is I will play the jerk and if she sticks around then great and if she runs away, so be it. But that way I know she didn't leave me for being a nice guy.

Thoughts people?

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so you really like this girl so your going to treat her like shit to see if she stays?
or did i miss something?

why would you want to treat her like shit if she is a stuck up bitch than ok but if she is a nice girl you dont have to game her so hard why make the affort... and you shouldn't be asking youself these questions now but before you approached her at least that's how i do it...

good luck

Yea, I plan on playing a jerk so to speak. I am a good person, so it's not because that's my nature or because I'm mean. But I just get the sense that is what she will want or need. That's just my intuition.

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Whatever you do, don't take that advice the wrong way. To rephrase it: have the mind set of a man who naturally attracts women, and you will naturally attract women. The first woman is the hardest to attract but once you have one, more will follow.

Second off, be real. You're only going to go so far in the field with that "gangster" shit you're talking about. If not at first, ALL women will eventually see right through you. Seems to me if negging women is your attraction strategy, you need to work on your inner game then study attraction some more.

Just remember you've been lied to all your life about what women want. They want to tame a wild guy, and they want sexual energy. That doesn't mean you should act like a gangster/asshole/dick/douchebag/etc. It means you need to exhibit attractive qualities. Get her emotionally addicted to you (amazing sex will do that but you can do it with your personality too).

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Is this a troll thread??

I've gone on a few dates with her now and we have great phone conversations.

She opened up to me and everything fit the proper frame, but I still get the sense it is temporary.

ASPIRING

Just remember you've been lied to all your life about what women want. They want to tame a wild guy, and they want sexual energy. That doesn't mean you should act like a gangster/asshole/dick/douchebag/etc. It means you need to exhibit attractive qualities. Get her emotionally addicted to you (amazing sex will do that but you can do it with your personality too).

I am definitely not a wild guy that needs to be tamed. Wish I was.

I was really prepared to be a jerk, but she was so cool with me, just after a little bit of that I was able to just chill.

I do not know how to get her emotionally addicted to me.

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It's cool. We simply have different styles. For me I learned everything from Gambler - a teacher of Natural Game. It's all about creating the best version of yourself and using your own personality as a foundation. For me that clicked.

For you I think Jon Sinn would be a good mentor. He always takes the shortest possible route to fuck a girl. Check him out on YouTube or google or whatever. Don't pay for that shit though, you don't need to.

Remember attraction is a feeling for women. It's going to change. As soon as you think you have her you're gonna lose her.

As far as emotional addiction, give her an experience no other guy does.
Ex: Cocky+Funny - There's tons of funny guys out there and tons of cocky ones, neither type gets laid! Mix the 2 together though and she's getting a rare experience. It sounds simple but most guys don't have the confidence to pull it off.

Ex 2: Sexual+Secretive+Playful - Acknowledge her sexual nature. Women are dirtier than men. Fuck the stereotypes, it's true. Don't be a pervert, you need a shallow level of comfort first. You'll be surprised what you can get away with (especially in public)

By the way I'm not talking out my ass here. All the advice I give is from mistakes I've made then corrected and field tested. I took 10 minutes out of my busy life to post. Do me a favor and use it.

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You arw thinking about this the wrong way by making her the prize.You said you got lucky as if you don't value your wealth.Instead of you putting your game on auto pilot realize that are the commodity not her.Woman outnumber men 14 to 1.Some guys don't like woman and some are afraid to approach them making your choices 56 to 1.Your confidence should come from the realization she needs you more than you need her.So flip your mentality from chaser to chasee.

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I will apply that and I appreciate you writing that out and I am looking up Jon Sinn right now. I'm gonna PM you.

dycethep

Thanks I appreciate the perspective about men being so rare and us being the prize.

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What a coincidence that I am in the same scenario as you. Question is, how to build emotional connectiveness with a girl. Well in this thread I have elaborated on my email correspondence with dreamgirl. And then I mean REALLY dreamgirl. Even my ex said she´s hot. You can read it in here:

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Hey man, I am responding because your situation is so similar to mine that maybe we can help each other haha. I also met a model chick that I think is awesome. HB11 all the way (I can't believe she is spending time with me). I have hung out with her 3 times, the past 2 she slept over but she won't have sex with me. I've run kino to the max and I end up with hand holding, kissing her, and her laying on top of me while she watches reality tv shows.

I think my game is probably way different than yours. I like showing girls that I'm smart, sophisticated, and the most interesting guy available to her. I basically do it by teasing, using witty sarcasm, and telling a LOT of stories. Her big thing is "respect for women" so telling her how good I can eff her is not going to fly, and that is isn't me so I wouldn't say that anyway. I'd rather let my performance speak for itself (and my tongue) but I can't get her to that point. I don't think you have to go gangster to come across with superior confidence cuz it sounds like you are acting like all the other guys she dated. I would try to figure out a way to be "the one" so to speak. Be different, and own it.

Looks like you found yourself a feminist! Next time, do better research through conversation before you bring her home with you. Pass one turn in prison then back to square one.

very interesting topic to me. You describe her as your dreamgirl, but I do not really see that you value her as your dreamgirl, I understand the way you act with her so she do not get to comfortable, but here you are also typing as if she was just another HB you just want to game and if this is the case you shouldn't really worried about loosing her, she is just another girl in the way.

I am wondering if it was my dreamgirl, if I would really risk to loose her by treating her like shit, knowing that I am acting up and also knowing the rest had done the same to her. It feels to me that is just following the same pattern and so eventually she will get bored about it because the relationship will not bring any new better experience to her ... I mean she already knows what to be treated like shit is. Anyway, I gotta accept is just not my style, so please let us know how this develops, I am curious, and I will be happy to hear about it.

Concerning creating an addiction. In my case, I create this connection with girls by telling them stories that display DHV, jokes, teasing them and finally some "energy" interpretation of themselves. they always value these kind of conversations and it creates a connection that make them want to be closer to you. I noticed they always wonder how you did to understand them so well. The issue here is that I do not see how to mix the bad ass boy attitude you are doing with what I do.