Hello world!

I've been sarging for 4 weeks now, averaging 3 nights a week. I've been able to get quite a lot of kiss closes (about 12, say...) and a few numbers and oppurtunities to persist to f-closes. A few of them showed that they really wanted it too!

But I'm a virgin, so I have had no experience of f-closing before!

I often find that when I'm happily waggling my tongue in a girl's face, I'm comfortable with my progress and stop trying to escalate to a lay.

I suppose that once I can nail this aspect of game down, it will become much smoother and natural as going in for the k-close is for me - learning by experience, so to speak.

I've thought about certain ways to express your sexual intent.
So far I have:

- Directly stating it - will probs scare her away so not a good idea.
- Implied through cocky/funny (eg: "My god, you have no idea what's running through my head right now".)
- Whispering in her ear/seductive voice.
- Moving her about the venue.
- KINO escalation (steadily more intimate, Gambler's Stealth Attraction is something I use often)
- Seductive glancing - the "I want you" glance.
- Subtly implying it through body language (eg: moving rings up and down finger, etc...)
- Saying things that imply you may have to stay at hers (eg: I have nowhere to stay).

Feel free to give me some advice here guys!

Cheers,
Ninja

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Well you have to become good at feeling the vibe and that can only come with experimentation and experience.

But as general advice - yes, subliminal suggestions, using certain words in conversation, turning things a bit sexual, is a good way of letting them know you're okay with it without destroying the mystery by stating it directly. And if you can tell that they wanted it, like you said, then all you need to do is that, and then exactly what you suggested - offer suggestions that end up with staying at your place. You will have to read the situation to know whether you can do this in a direct, no bullshit, innocent way "It would make it easier if..." or "We'll have more time together if..." or if you should suggest it in a comical way "Well, I happen to have a bed..." etc.

You make a good point there. Vibes...I can relate to that feeling of kinaesthetically knowing how to act in other situations just from experience, nothing too complex. Why should it be any different for lays?

I can understand the use of communication to portray sexual openness and honesty in guiding the interaction, but I suppose the main concept here is just going for it - in order to tap into those familiar vibes next time and replicate the same results, you would first need to experience and become familiar with them.

In other words: get laid, lol.

Come to think of it, women have communicated their sexual openness and honesty to me on numerous occasions and I haven't reciprocated or escalated towards that end :/

Like you said about ending with going back to someone's house, I'm hopefully going out with a girl and her friends I number closed on Wednesday tonight in Huddersfield. I have nowhere to stay purposefully so I can get the mercy vote and go back to hers (it's that or chill in the train station...)
She's a sleep insomniac, so guess what we're doing all night! Or at least for the span of a few minutes

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if your getting the vibe where a girl seems interested in sex, isolate her to a spot where it can happen

(proper logistics for sex to happen first is a pretty good idea, and depending on how you have been playing it, plausable deniability is your friend, and how ever you have been framing the interaction, things should remain congruent to that frame)

if you're in a good spot and you have the compliance to make out with her, do so

make out with her, feel her up, start taking off your clothes, if she asks what you are doing or starts getting anxious just stay calm like everything is no big deal... happens all the time, why wouldn't you start taking off your clothes? it's more comfortable, this kind of thing is normal

^ hold that frame

other then that, Mystery Method was pretty on point with an effective handle for LMR

if you have your tounge in a girls mouth, it is pretty safe to assume she is well aware of your intentions, once you have been feeling her up for a while and some clothes have come off, start playing with her ass, if she is all compliant with that, stick your finger inside her, still good? ask her if she wants you inside her

^ this should be good enough ground work to go off for your first time

I understand the process of escalation leading up towards sex - as if to set the scene. I'm okay with that, it's more isolating your girl.

So for me at this stage in the game, it's more about what cues/IOI's determine her interest in escalating/having sex with me and how to isolate from there...

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