Hi guys. I have collected few numbers and 2 of them (2 blondes) were pretty responsive to my text game. They reply to my texts with long texts and generally writing thinks like that they are "looking forward to see me".

But after the first date both got pretty cold and I feel I must be making some super big mistakes.

I am not sure which details should I point out. There are so many. I will try point out some simple facts and please don't hesitate to ask for more. I just do not want to overhelm this post with too many (possibly unnecessary) details.

Place: I took first blonde to play pool, she said she like it because it is not typical. Second didn't want to play pool, I suggested coffee in one of my favorite caffeteria with great cheescake.

Kino: I tried to kino very much. With first one it didn't go so well, she didn't give me back any kino at all and her body language was closed, a little kiss on the end of the date but I don't think she liked it too much...
The second one was receptive (immediatelly as we meet up I kissed her hand and locked her into me to walk) and we made out a little in the middle of the date and on the end.

Speaking: I speak a lot. But maybe too much. Both indicated I speak really lot (one said througout the date and second wrote me afterwards)
I used a lot of CnF even during both dates. I tried to speak about important shit but I dont know. I don't really know the ratio with which I sould do it.


When I think about it I think that I am just too direct (I mean on a date. OTH when approaching and texting it works for me). I am getting a feeling that they are closing up because I am just comming out as an cocky idiot. I also think that I am too "scripted" that I look like I am just too confident to be true - they both said to me that I am really confident guy blabla on a date and when we texted.

How do you behave on a date?Are you trying to be "yourself" like speaking of your family, getting to know each other in a genuine way or do you continue with CnF and teasing frame? Should I just be nice and let her speak? And build attraction with kino?


I am looking forward for your tips guys! I really want to learn this shit but without help it will just take so much time and trial and error... If you could also point me to some good material about dating?

Well, it's very difficult to point out someones mistakes unless you see the interaction.

I personally like the fact that you seem to start kino early on, setting the frame for your whole meeting. But then again, there is allways too much, too much kino could creep them out, too much CnF could simply make you look self-centered if done wrong or too much.

In my experience, talking to much/fast makes you seem needy. Learn how too get them to open up and talk about things that they find interesting, people wanna be listened to rather than listen, generally. I mean, talking alot makes it look like you fear that once you stop, it would cause an akward silence.

Hope that some of this could help you out, might have swung and missed here but, I think I can picture your problem.

P.S. You don't think you could give us an example of the conversation?

I don't think an interaction would help in this case.

Anyways, your input was very helpeful, I put it into a pratice!!

Yesterday I went sarging and approached HB7, CnF approach, funny, showing strong value, then dancing nad after that we sat down...
We talked for about 2 hours maybe (1 hour in the club and 1 hour in my car). I decided I would change the ratio of CnF/teasing/sexual tension vs comfort. I also let her talk much more, asking important questions. In the 2 hours convo there were about 2-3 CnF and teasing sentences (in one case I teased her about anal sex and she gave me a play punch ). Then one really romantic kiss after 2 unsuccessfull attempts. Then we kissed and touched a lot and she seems pretty hooked - texting me today and overall much much warmer then the other 2 girls.

You were right that I was talking about bullshits WAY TOO MUCH (and too fast) and CnFing like a crazy man.

I found out its important to get her open up and be vulnerable.

OTH wrt to kino (including kissing) I think, and it seem counter intuitive, I increased the amount. I don't think it will creep her out if its slowely escalated and when she refuses to comply at some point, I just back up one step. Stepping back to comfort zone = not creeping out.

I think my problems comes from the fact that I am a PUA newbie and I don't know have the sense how to calibrate ratio of the techniques yet. Just have to experiment.

I'm glad my advice helped you out, and yes, it takes practice before you're able to balance CnF, teasing etc. with comfort. Comfort has always been my strong suit, and I, in difference to you, have a problem with sexual tension rather than comfort, although it's improving.