Met a girl at the bar tonight, danced with her for a nice half hr-hr, and made out with her heavy, touching, flirting on both sides. She was from a different town visiting, so my attempted fclose didn't work. Pretty sure I could have taken her home otherwise, she was into it.

Question - What's the best way to fclose a hb you think might have apprehensions? Should I have told her "I need to go home, my boys are leaving" or used some other social proof (or a dhv?) line and transitioned into an fclsoe?

Question 2 - I have her number - what's a good texting routine to bring her back into the mindset she was in at the club and give myself a good chance of hooking up with her afterwards?

I'm debating whether I should follow up on a girl I hooked up with at a club, but didn't f close. Would it be just wasted effort?

BTW, does anyone know what the etiquette is on calling? Does the guy always have to call after meeting a girl? From what I've learned from articles and various posts is that girls expect the guy to call and if the guy doesn't, then the girl feels bad or loses interest. But why can't the girl just pick up the phone and call? It doesn't make sense to me.

Fort1fy, if there are any more developments to your story, please share them, because I would like to know how this sort of situation can progress.

Sexual frame is set - no more work here

From my experience I can tell you that its the easiest for you if you just take her outside for a walk ( the next day ) ,escalating again ( ASAP ), have a coffee.
No special kinds of dates here - She wants to fuck, you want the same - keep it simple.

If shes staying for like a weekend, you make her really horny during your walk .
Its the same with girls from other cities

Before you ask yourself - NO, she is not going to have LMR due to heavy make out.
I still live at home, most of the time I would have sex with girls that are either
a) tourists
b) girls from diffrent cities
c) girls who are really horny and dont give a shit about me going home to their house

This is my way to F-Close girls from clubs if I dont get a SNL.[/i]

Thanks for the help Kent Baxxter, I'm definitely going to pursue this. At the club, though, her friends actually dragged her away from me, and yeah, they probably think im a total creep. It's been two days now and she has my information, but she hasn't sent me a friend request on facebook. Also no phone call, which brings me back to the question, why does the guy have to call?

So I'm planning to call her tomorrow at night because I'm busy all day. Should I send her a facebook friend request? Should I text her? (I really don't want to, I hate texting).

Also, in case you want to know logistics, I live in NYC and she lives in NJ, so the only time to get together would be on the weekend. I'm actually planning on going to NJ with some friends to go see a sports game this Friday, could I invite her to that or would that be weird, because I'd be with a bunch of dude friends?

fort1fy I want to know of any updates on your situation.

As for me, mine is going okay-not terrible but not great. I didn't mention this here, but I only got involved in PUA and The Game this year, sort of as a new year's resolution. I began Neil Strauss's Rules of the Game Style Life Challenge on January 10th, but im on day 19 (Yeah, I took some days off). So just getting numbers and making out with girls for me is a refreshing change to my life pre-2012, when I was getting nothing.

So i thought i had ruined it with this girl. I called her on tuesday, 3 days after making out with her at a dance club and left a voicemail. She texted me bak (so i guess she didn't want to talk to me) and i sent a lousy text asking if she wanted to come to a basketball game on friday and how I "wanted to get to know her better." She said she would see if she was free...

On Wednsday I discovered that there is such a thing as text game. I skeptically read some stuff from Braddock and Savoy and figured, "Well I might as well give it a shot." So Thursday comes, and I sent a text with a witty comment recalling something we briefly talked about that night, and i got a great response within minutes. I couldn't believe it at first, but i kept going and we ended up texting each other several times throughout the day as if we've known each other for a long time.

So four days ago i invited her to meet me today, before i was text gaming, and she said she would see if she was free, but i don't want to re-invite her, that would seem needy or desperate. Should i mention it or should i just pretend like i never invited her to meet me today? I don't want to have an idiotic text-relationship with her, so how can i progress from here?

fort1fy I want to know of any updates on your situation.

As for me, mine is going okay-not terrible but not great. I didn't mention this here, but I only got involved in PUA and The Game this year, sort of as a new year's resolution. I began Neil Strauss's Rules of the Game Style Life Challenge on January 10th, but im on day 19 (Yeah, I took some days off). So just getting numbers and making out with girls for me is a refreshing change to my life pre-2012, when I was getting nothing.

So i thought i had ruined it with this girl. I called her on tuesday, 3 days after making out with her at a dance club and left a voicemail. She texted me bak (so i guess she didn't want to talk to me) and i sent a lousy text asking if she wanted to come to a basketball game on friday and how I "wanted to get to know her better." She said she would see if she was free...

On Wednsday I discovered that there is such a thing as text game. I skeptically read some stuff from Braddock and Savoy and figured, "Well I might as well give it a shot." So Thursday comes, and I sent a text with a witty comment recalling something we briefly talked about that night, and i got a great response within minutes. I couldn't believe it at first, but i kept going and we ended up texting each other several times throughout the day as if we've known each other for a long time.

So four days ago i invited her to meet me today, before i was text gaming, and she said she would see if she was free, but i don't want to re-invite her, that would seem needy or desperate. Should i mention it or should i just pretend like i never invited her to meet me today? I don't want to have an idiotic text-relationship with her, so how can i progress from here?

For some reason I decided to come back to this forum and look at this post, because it is funny that at one point, my current girlfriend was a girl I was writing about on pua forums.

IF ANYONE IS LOOKING AT THIS IN DESPAIR, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I FOUND LOVE THROUGH THE PUA METHOD!!!!

Yes, we made out before we knew each others' name. Yes, we had sex two weeks later, and that very night we established ourselves into a committed relationship, one that his been great for the past 8 months (of course we've had our ups and downs). I know I want to spend the rest of my life with her and she wants to spend her life with me.

I believe this is not conventional at all. I only had two other random hookups ever, and this is my first girlfriend. To be honest, I didn't actively use game on her, we clicked naturally, but studying PUA techniques and following Neil Strauss' Rules of the Game guide gave me the confidence in myself to actually go out and put myself out there. Btw, I only made it to Day 22 of Rules of the Game before I found the love of my life. That's all it took.

Thank you PUAs and thank you Neil Strauss.