Hey guys, I have just found the community about a month ago. Thanks for all the tips, my inner game has definitely improved and I am more confident.

BUT!

I have been gaming this girl that has a bf. She came over to my house again tonight and we just end up smoking spliffs while she bashes her bf. I try to run some bf destroyer but sometimes I cant help to join in the bashing...the dude is such a tool!

Boys, how do I transition to get a kiss close from her...or even more? I have DHV'd a bunch of times and I can feel the attraction between us. Please give me some tips or routines to run to get this process going.

I know I can get her over here again this week so any advice would be grateful so I can close this HB9!

PS - What a great community and I cant wait to become an active member!!

I don't understand, she is coming over to your house, smoking bud, and talking shit about her BF. So at which point of the night do you decide to be a wussy and do nothing? Are you waiting for her to whip your penis out and beg you to get busy?

Does this sound ridiculous to you?

Yes it sure does detox. What can i say bro? I am still an AFC i want to show my intentions but i guess i am still not confident enough. Like how would u handle this situation? How would you transition her?

Like should i just dive in for the kiss? Im confused brother

Im not going to tell you what I would do to escalate because it would be way too aggressive for you.

However you can try to physically escalate by rubbing her neck and scalp and shoulders and then if she is responsive to that then you can kiss her neck then her lips. Calibrate as appropriate.

Easiest way to transition when smoking weed is do that trick where you take a big inhale, and the you blow it into the other persons mouth. I forgot what it's called, but this is my guaranteed that if she is in any way down, she we'll respond positively to this.

Personally, if you're getting high together, it shouldn't be that hard to escalate quickly with kino, as long as she doesn't get too paranoid about it, if she does, get more high .

Back to the point. If you're round yours again, suggest a film, something that you've seen before or something that won't get you too involved into. just sit right next to her when watching it, put your legs across hers or something, get comfy. Transition this into proding her/tickling her whatever, high fives etc, transition into her leaning on you or vice versa, keep with the kino, get closer, it'll soon be clear what your intentions are.

devoh, getting high and gaming does not work for me. I used to be attracted to a girl I regularly smoked with, but whenever I was high I felt nervous, dull and paranoid.

Anyway, you need to kino her. There has to be some touching whenever you guys hang out, until eventually when you're close enough to her and just move in for a kiss. Don't seem too interested, but keep being flirty and playful..

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Hey guys,

Thanks for the advice. She came by again tonight and I escalated to spooning. It was a big step for me as we were sitting mad far apart on the couch before this (real real awkward). I just grabbed a nice blanket, put on a show, and opened my arms and she fell right in

We laid their for like 2 hours and it was just nice holding her, you know (spoken like a true AFC). Dont flame me too much boys, you know im trying to progress over here. Just thought I'd update my post.

Always, always open to ideas to escalate further.

Thanks for the support boys,

You were literally in the most ideal situation to to kiss her then. Get into some sort of similar situation, it'll be obvious if she's cuddling in. Either kiss her on the head at first, then pull her chin up and go for it, or just go for it.

^ this guys is right. Youre gonna think to yourself "Its not the right time" but there is never a right time to say or do something that will change everything. Regret is worse than rejection. So youre gonna have to get yourself in another situation like you were in, and say FUCK IT, take the plunge, any just kiss her, use the 90/10 rule or something but you gotta take the leap of faith. Do you think she would put her self in the situations she has been if she didnt want you to save her from this tool.

No hesitation just action.

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.

Taking a shottie.

As for your situation, listen to everyone here. You had a chance and froze up instead of making a move. We all make mistakes where we question ourselves because we don't think its the right time to act, lose the opportunity, then start to ask shoulda, coulda, woulda questions. Learn from it and apply it to any other time you're in this situation.

easy and simple wait for a small break in convo look at her and say

"you want to kiss me dont you!!" (say with confidence like statement not question)

her answer yes gold kiss her!!

anything else other than no like " maybe " or "i dunno"
say "well lets find out" and go for the kiss she does but cant admit it

if she ses no sad panda but don t show it just say

"well stop giving those eyes champ/kiddo/punk"

simple easy works all 9 out of 10

added note once you kissed say "your good but i think u need more practice" and continue

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hey boys, my bad, I haven't updated the post in a while!

I have escalated even further with her, eating out, fingering and banging

Although I like her, she is still with her bf but she comes over to my place like 3-4 times a week to fool around. She is still with her bf and I havent pressured her to leave him...should I? Or should I just do my thing with her when I want?

Thanks for all the posts, I've learned from them, mainly that she wouldn't be coming over to my place alone if she didn't want me to escalate the situation

The biggest lesson I have learned with this girl that I will apply to all others is to LEAD. LEAD at every point you can, you make the plans, you tell her when to come over, you tell her what position to get into...it allows us the be the LEADER and her to be the LADY and follow her man.

If you just learned this you are ahead of 80% of the guys out there - good work

Hey mate.
Listen up !!!
This girl returns to your place cause she having a good time!
This Girl has some kind of expectation probably from you besides the smoking part.
She is enjoying being around you that means you have more then what needed in order to get this going.
now listen up here is the steps you should do!
1. First be social able be funny and stuff then switch!!!
2. Switch to be more comfortable friendly kino and try to get her talk about her life, open to you look at the eyes don't break eye contact Listen to her this is very important! then do Switch
3. its time for you to be more seductive talk slowly clearly smooth don't break eye contact do more seductive kino lean in make it look like you going to kiss her without breaking eye contact but instead just tell her something very slowly in a warm way in the ear if she doesn't lean back bammmm just is ready for the kiss reapted but go for the kiss.

By the wayyyyyyyyyyyy don't try to make her leave her bf don't laugh at him or talk about him to much causeeeee!
YOU DON'T NEED TO PROVE HER ANYTHING IN WORDS!
YOU ARE A CONFIDENT MAN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT
YOU ARE BETTER AND YOU CAN SHOW IT WITHOUT BARGING ABOUT IT.
believe in yourself this is the perfect key for this stuff.
i have read to much books until i got it. We all have a man inside us we can be naturally good with any woman and we can be even better with practice =).