People always say that rejection doesn't matter, but it kinda does when the it's a cool girl...

Anyway!

It was raining like hell and I just wanted to take the bus as I see it driving away in front of me.
I could scream 'STOP THE BUS!', but it was too far away, so I didn't.

So I thought: go to another stop or just wait for the next one... as a HB9(age 20, I'm 18) gets off and just waits at the stop, while smoking. It was like God sent me the opportunity straight from heaven. If I didn't approach this girl, I would have to cut my balls off.

Opener, opener, think of an opener!! (Oh yeah, got one!)
G:"You didn't hear me, huh?"
"What? No, I didn't"
G:"Yeah too bad... What are you doing here anyway? You just got off right?"
"Yeah I'm smoking here because it's raining too much."
G:"Okay, got a lighter?" (light mine)
G:"The next one isn't coming till like half an hour! And I'd probably drown if I'd go walking to the next stop... Are you gonna keep me company? "
"Well, it's raining like hell so I guess so."

I said I was glad that she was here, for we were already talking for 20 minutes, and my bus was almost coming.
So I think 4/5 times a awkard silence came for about 5 seconds, and then we started talking again. She talked about her ex-relationship in which she just got dumped, and was telling me that she wasn't searching for other men so soon. She loved cars and helped older people, so I said that she really is a nice girl, helping other people. So I said I helped other people too a couple years ago blabla.

Well, I saw that my bus was coming and I NEVER EVER randomly asked a random girl's number.
So I thought: "NOW OR NEVER, YOU COWARD!"

G:"So, what's your number?"
"I'm not giving it ."
G:"Ah, there goes your chance , well bye bye and good luck!" (c&f)
"Thanks! Byebye!":)

Then I acted like I didn't care, there was nobody around and I was just being nice to her.
But now I feel like I lost a good catch, she was really pretty and she wants to help people.

Also afterwards, I keep thinking up what better things I could've said, so that I'd break her balls a bit.
But at the moment itself, I just freeze a little bit and come up with normal questions and normal stories...


You're probably reading this and have lots of opinions about it, so all tips/critism are welcome.

Ouch!
I think that cocky and funny line you delivered was too powerful and she might have taken you for some generic guy.
Also never just ask for the number.

Always make her comfortable in giving it.
Try saying.
"How can we continue this conversation?"
Usually its the number.

Good effort though.
Keep it up!

I have to admit, even when I said it I already felt the awkwardness.

As for the seduction, I didn't feel much attraction towards her or the other way around. I guess I should've been more C&F but I think I'm kind of getting it. (for my appearance)

First you have to create a false sense of security, like I'm not hitting on her so she can just relax and let her ASD down.

Damn I have so much to write but am too sleepy and have to get up early...

i honestly disagree.. if you show your intention from the beginning she'll know that your serious about it and that you can be alpha and dominant. if you try sneaking under the radar, she'll think to herself "ewww" as soon as she gets the vibe that you were hitting on her all along..

What i would have done, and what i normally do is if i'm not quite sure if it's going to work, ask for her facebook, easy and simple. If you hand your phone to her to put her name in, you could slip in, you may as well put your number in too whilst you're there . Never ask for a number.

c&f is really bad in the daytime so you want to run other types of humor instead.

"really, I love helping older people too. It's like if you just stick around long enough someone will write you into their will."

Also your c&f is coming off defensive, oh I got rejected so now I'll make a joke about it.

Lastly you're asking too many questions I guess you could call it pseudo-leadership because you are directing the conversation but making her do all the hard work which put the conversation burden on her = feel pressure = not attractive.

Everyday I can choose between two stops. I used to didn't care, because it really didn't matter.
But now every goddamn time I want to choose, SHE runs through my mind like lightning: "What if she's there? Maybe I should ask her to play pool with me sometimes so I can get her number?"
... But let's leave it at that, and get the the real business:

Knicksfan, I think direct depends too much on your appearance.
I think of it like when a black or chinese girl comes to me and says I'm really handsome and she wants my number. I would say thank you, but won't give her my number for I don't like black/chinese girls.

And in my country people tend to be creeped out by my race/people. It's like being black in America while asking the cops where to find a SPAM. And I'm not kidding. Really. Even I despise the majority of my race. But here it's all people vs my race, while I'm a real good guy with a good heart but people can't see that at first sight, which I understand.
I know when you're a handsome white male, girls will never be creeped out by you, unless you're really crossing the social line.

Adam, I really hate facebook lol.
I hate it that all people try to act social while it's all just a fucking pretending to know everybody while you're sitting on your computer adding everybody. So therefore I don't even have a display picture lol, but you're right, it is a better way to keep in touch than none.
Haha and she was assertive and not dumb, I could tell that if she doesn't want to something, she won't. That's why I actually am a bit dissappointed, I admire her.

Domr, you are fcking right.
I literally asked question after question after question, but that was just to avoid the awkard silences! And I heard that girls love to talk about themselves, because then they create emotions(which I saw/noticed) and they say you have to give a girl lot of different emotions.
I think I was afraid that if she wouldn't laugh at my jokes or doesn't respond to my comments/stories, she would just leave or even worse, just stand there thinking: "Wow this guy is really unattractive". I think I was too fazed by her beauty, and didn't want to fail with her.

Yep, I made the same mistakes. The trick is you have to be interesting yourself so she volunteers information. Getting girls even talking to you is like a big step at first, lol, so you're like damn she's saying xxx but then you realize forcing information out is very poor because it kills attraction.

I'm at Uni now, facebook is an essential part of my life now in terms of work and socialising, great for developing people you've met in a less formal way. If you haven't made enough of a connection to seal the deal with a number, it's a brilliant means of making progress, as well as showing that you aren't afraid of hiding anything. DHV.

hey dude this is my first post but thought id drop in a random thing i use for getting numbers. Common mistake guys make is they ask for the number at the end of a convo and i find it just makes things a lil awkward with no were to go if she says no. instead try asking mid to end of the convo when your what i call 'rolling' (no silences etc she seems relaxed) try and make her laugh and then ask they are gonna feel less threatened and your more likely to get the number.

hope this helps dude

you gotta get over this, ''WOW SHE IS SO COOL CAUSE SHE IS GOOD LOOKING'' thing, she didn't seem cool by your post, she seemed dis-interested and polite, she wasn't making an effort to invest at all, it sounds like you were interviewing her and felt an immense pressure was placed on yourself to make something happen, stop trying to impress girls, there is no point, they just plain and simple either are into you, or are not into you, stop worrying about saying and doing the right things, just tell her what is up, ambushing her from the side without ''hitting on her'' is retarded in my opinion, you are going to ask for the phone number in the end anyways, what are you gonna do, be so cocky and funny, that she just assumes your not hitting on her, give you her phone number to bake some cookies, just as friends though, then two months later SURPRISE YOU HAVE A DICK, and waalaa magic she jumps on it?, asd is about her feeling like a slut

-you don't brag about hook ups
-you don't have stds
-you have standards when it comes to girls
-you are socially acceptable to sleep with
-you won't judge her

these are some important handles on asd, leting her know you like her right away, just eliminates the whole chase mystery of why you are talking to her and removes some probable deniability (but with a bit of time, waalaa like magic you have it again), but you can still push after you pull, it is pretty easy to just qualify her hard, unless looks truly are all that matter to you, just cause you tell a girl she is cute does not mean she won you over, it just means exactly what it means, if you want to be a challenge, then be one, stating intent or not stating intent doesn't matter, if intent is there, it will shine through, and hiding it just makes you look like a pussy, maybe some girls find that cute and think showing it would be too forward, maybe some think it is because you are afraid and it is a turn off and would prefer you to be upfront

as for the rejection, you didn't really do anything wrong, or anything right, she was just not interested, girls say yes, girls say no, have fun and stop putting so much pressure on yourself to reach an outcome, give girls a chance to win you over, and be fine with that silence, if she likes you, she will break it to get your attention and start interviewing you instead of the other way around, and thats when the back and fourth dance begins,

all you can really do to improve the chances of her wanting to invest (besides going to the gym and improving your style/grooming), is demonstrate a bit of who you are first, comming on with intent, usually accomplishes this way easier then sitting there
trying to build attraction (basically all you are doing is showing her you are cool before you hit on her), with dhv stories, negs and jokes, just the good old, hey you're smoking hot, why are you not my new wife? will save you a shit load of time compared to sitting there rambling off stroies about pre-selection and leading, or bringing up, my buddy blah blah blah, and my other buddy james blah blah blah, and then my other buddy erika, haha you don't get it?, at least you have a nice smile

start asking girls out instead of for their numbers, sell the location to them, then when they agree it sounds good, just assume the number as a byproduct, if they wouldn't meet you to hang out then the number would be useless for you anyways, and if you notice you are having a big problem with flaking and girl forgetting who you are, start challenging them before the close, (making sure they are not ''one of those girls'' cause if they are then never mind about the number *if she is interested she will qualify herself stating she is not one of those girls* thus weeding out more girls that are a giant waste of time and investment from you)

keep at it, you are going to get numbers that you put alot of effort into that don't respond after more then an hour in set, and the girl seemed like she was all over you, then you will go out some other time and get another number in less then a minute and end up out on a date with her, and realize it really doesn't matter, the more girls you talk to and try to get number from the better, they say yes, they say no

Damn, forgot about this post. Guess that's good.
Aahahaha, you crack me up man.
But you're totally right, I was just in interviewing mode and there's nothing attractive about that!
I have to say that I fucking LOVE learning PUA: You go to school to learn mathemathics. You go to hot girls to learn PUA.

And I read your post a month ago, it really helped me lol.
I made a post yesterday about a foreign HB9, it was actually quite the same situation. (although writing english is a lot easier than fluently speaking english)
She seemed really interested, touched her hair A LOT and walked with me.
Gave me her number, texted her an hour and a half later, NO RESPONSE.
So when I read this post I immediately laughed.
You're right.