Setting up Day2 and Freeze out Problem- What should I do ?



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:56 am 
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Hey Lorenzo and Conker.....I am really grateful for your replies and help as I have gained a lot of valuable information. I think that you guys clearly pointed out the problem in my game and I will be working on it to improve my game and take it to next level. I know that will not happen in one day but since i know how to tackle this issue, I would put myself out in field and practice it till I feel confident of solving it.
I think with my cocky/fuuny style and tricks, I build a lot of surface attraction but I fail in capitalizing that small window of opportunity. But now I have seen that the game is so cruel and you can lose all the HB interest so quickly just like what happened to me. She was so into me but I didnt see that window of opportunity and acted like dancing monkey (Conker thanks for this phrase; will always remind me of my mistake:) )
I did plan but I was also prepared for blow-out which actually happened. I guess I tried my best to tell her that I want to talk and know her but it was too late. I also asked wats the good time to call you? But again, Its my fault that I lost the opportunity to have her. I dont know what just happened in FIVE days that she took almost 180 degree in her attitude. Overall, it was a great learning experience and guys I like your style and will be following it instead of playing unnecessary gambits and tricks of Pick-Up. I usually do Day-time pick up and I think I should go for style which you guys have mentioned.
I have a couple of questions however;

1- How do you know that the window of opportunity has just opened and i need to capitalize it ? My take is if she IOI you and gives compliments and laughs at your jokes, the time is right to steer into comfort and investment. What do you guys say?

2- Lorenzo you said that "do your PUA stuff while having normal conversation" Would you guys elaborate how to integrate PUA stuff into normal investment convo?

Its really saddening that it ended badly and so abruptly. Initially I was really pissed with myself and I was like what the f**** happened to her? But may be its the lesson for me to remember and next time I hope for better outcome by playing better. Comments/Suggestions on her losing interest so instantly? Maybe my FREEZE-OUT worked against me ?

Thanks again guys and I might be pinging you again for my next sarges.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:29 am 
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The moment you notice you're starting to get along well, that's more or less when it starts. So yeah you're about right.

And yeah if you miss the big signs of interest, it can all end quite quickly. What you experienced was not uncommon.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm 
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Yeah Conker, I knew this to be true about "busy" or busy women. But some AFCs dont notice this trend in women who always seem "busy" for them. What I have noticed that once I hook her interest and do my thing, she is never too busy to make plans with me--any experience with me is basically a pleasure that she does not want to miss! LOL, sounds cocky, but true.

Knight_gt, Im glad that you are taking this as a learning experience (like feedback for the future) more than a failure. You do not fail in this pursuit of becoming a better person (by doing PUA) because you continuously must calibrate and learn from your mistakes. Next time, somthing similar to this with another girl should not happen to you because you will notice the signs before it's too late. :-)

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1- How do you know that the window of opportunity has just opened and i need to capitalize it ? My take is if she IOI you and gives compliments and laughs at your jokes, the time is right to steer into comfort and investment. What do you guys say?

2- Lorenzo you said that "do your PUA stuff while having normal conversation" Would you guys elaborate how to integrate PUA stuff into normal investment convo?
1- You are on the right track by using IOIs to judge when to take advantage of a window of opportunity. My best advice to a beginner would be to notice any IOI and then push for risky moves (like kisses, kinos, and proximity). You will notice that even if the girl rejects you, she will value and become attracted to your confident push forward. (Just be careful being too forward because you do not want to give off a negative vibe.)

Sometimes there are so many windows of opportunities that you have to simply act like they are always available so that you do not miss any of them. And it is true like Conker stated, you miss one and that could be the end because a female will judge this as if you are social inept to her subtleties. Shit happens, but learn from it. (Once you become more advanced in this PUA stuff, you will notice that you can create your own windows to take advantage of-- but this is better left for after you learn the concept better.)

2- You integrate normal PUA stuff into your conversation by DHVing in stories that you tell, stopping the conversation when it is good to tease her (making her covet more from you), keep her in suspense and be spontaneous with what you say and what you do with her, etc. The possibilities are endless, but you have to work out what is best for your persona.

One thing, for example, that I do is while taking about fashion (or whatever) I will give her a statement of interest like wow that looks amazing on you. Then I describe how i love that her X matches and contrasts very nicely with her Y. Then I hold her hand and make her do a spin for me. I will then tell her I totally checked you out (all this while smiling). As soon as I do this, I notice that she will comply with my intentions and as soon as she kinos me, I tell her hey hey missy, $5 a touch, this is not free you know!

By doing this, I have made myself the prize while showing that I want her. This creates tension because I have not made covert moves to get her (not yet atleast), and she wants me more just because of the dynamics involved....

Just an example that came to my head right now. But play with the concept and think about what things you can do when in a social situation that makes you look whatever way you want (like I wanted to makemyself look as the prize).

Take care man and good luck...

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Conker you see really intelligent. Could you check out my post real quick and make sure I'm on the right path? Thx!

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All really good advice on this post esp the part about getting the girl to invest, but I might also point out not to take it too personally when some chick you met for 5 minutes in the mall flakes on you. Yes you can always improve your pick-up but at this stage there is a good chance it had nothing at all to do with you. Keep punching. You can't recover a fumble if you're not on the field!


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