But is the bf thing so wrong? To just turn the light-switch off on like 10 days of good interaction instantly? So she doesn't even want to communicate no more, let alone being friends?

I used it before and I had something with like 80% of the girls I used it on...other 20% were just friends.

Btw, eye fucking is what I did. I called it "awkward" because it might have been awkward to her.

it's bad, but not so bad, by itself.
did you ever k-close this girl?
did she give you hints she was down for some level of physical intimacy?

if the answers are no/yes, then you probably failed her primal test: you failed to qualify as a sexual being in her eyes. that is definitely grounds for immediate termination.

the rule is that the more the girl is into you, the more you can fuck up without major adverse consequences. which is pretty much why you can fuck up quite a lot with your girlfriend but are supposed to be close to perfect on a first date. if the girl seriously fancies you, or is just down to fuck no matter what, you can fuck up quite a bit even on a first date, but usually you want to avoid doing so as much as possible

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nice guys don't get laid
"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

Funny thing is though, that when I care about the girl the most, I fuck up most often (good game nature). I was so fucking impressed that it dug me in my tracks.
I over-think, want to take it slow so I don't fuck up...and end up fucking up.

Other date I had last week... girl was a physical 9 but a chimp mentally. Kissed closed her after 1 hour and kept kissing for like 30 mins non stop...just to shut her stupid mouth. And then we went to my place.

I guess the one I fucked up with, wanted the same... I just have to stop caring.

girls don't want you to take it slow. no matter how much they say otherwise.

this girl met two guys online.
one of them, guy A, got her to *HIS* place for the first date. k-closed her after an hour. heavy make-out. would have f-closed but she was on her period. she still spent the night in the guy's bed. guy A got another date the same weekend. the girl again drove to his place. that day he f-closed the chick.
guy B, invited her to a Starbucks in *HER* city, chatted with her for a couple hours. never escalated physically. guy B was lucky enough to get a second date. he drove to *HER* city again. again, no physical intimacy.
the chick told guy A that she liked taking things slowly and did not like starting a LTR with sex too early on.

fast forward a few months. one of the guys is banging the chick. the other is probably using his right hand. guess who's who.

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nice guys don't get laid
"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

Ok i'm back and let me say a few things "eye fucking" as it's been called is a reference to an intimate triangular gaze. Awkward silences are only awkward if you feel they are.

So don't go into traditional uncomfortable body language like I have seen many AFCs and have done myself in the past keep calm and collected.

Now for the intimate gaze it's a triangular gaze in which you switch from left eye to to lower body to right eye, or the more polite left eye mouth right eye. both get the point across.

I use the first since it's more direct and obvious you are gazing sexually at them.Don't be squrrely about the eyes though, take a nice slow gaze. To fast makes you look like you're debating rape or doing a line off her ass

You are right to cringe about telling her you liked her overinvestment at its finest, but don't beat yourself up over it making mistakes is important. This is how you will grow. Also, the bf thing was bad if that was the case she would of brought it up immediately. If he is not giving her what she needs you can be the guy to. (though i wouldn't start relationships with that type)

I'm unwillingly bumping this thread but I don't think my question deserves a new one.

To sum it up: My brother wanted to hook me up with one of his girl-friends. He told her about me like a month ago and she seemed extremely interested (after he told her that I'm basically just like him). So I had stuff happen, then went to the vacation for 15 days...and now I finally got to text her. This is how it went:

MJK (16:29): Hey (girl's name). It's MJK, (brother's name) brother. What's up?

HER (16:35): Hey I'm just chatting with your brother (on Facebook)...Surprise! A pleasant one. I'm boiling, I need the sea. You? How was your vacation? How are you?

MJK (16:42): Hehe...Surprise! I'm still recovering from my vacation, maybe 15 days was too much. Where would you like to go for a holiday?

HER (16:46): You can never get tired of the sea. Last year I was for 2 moths in _______, I almost moved there. So this summer I told (brother's name) that I'd buy a summer house. And blow up the inflatable pool haha

MJK (16:56): I was in _______. Light breeze was blowing at all times, so it wasn't too hot. Although in the evening it was so cold that I needed a sweater...so I got a cold and went back exhausted. Other then that it was awesome

HER (17:33): Was chasing to pay the phone credit sorry. You should rest now. I was dozing for days...this heat is killing me..I'm so glad you called

MJK (17:49): Glad we met I'm laying down right now watching The Hustle on ______. It's one of my favorite shows. Whats your favorite one?

HER (17:52): We haven't met hahaha Just kidding. I'm glad either way. I watched the Game of Thrones, now I'm waiting for Breaking Bad now season... SPAM? Face? Anything? Enjoy. I'll probably have to travel to _______ in this hell. o_O

MJK (18:03): This is some kind of meeting also hehe. It's kind of impersonal but good for a start. SPAM: ______________. Good luck on your journey...talk to you later. Enjoy.

HER (18:27): Enjoy also. I'll find you Text me...



As I said I'm not a text expert but she seems interested ^^
Seriously though...should I turn the conversation sexual...how and when?
Or should I keep it light and go sexual on the date?

As a side-note, my brother says shes like that towards him as well...overly enthusiastic etc.
Also she is 27.