Why talk about the boyfriend at all? Bad game. You're making her think about him, when you should be making her think about you.

And why do you care about the boyfriend anyway? You haven't even kissed this girl. Your over-investment is palpable to me, so I can only imagine what the girl feels like.


You're playing inter-dimensional chess with yourself, and losing.

Get out of your head and drop the gimmicky tactics. Respond organically.

Wait a week for her to respond, at least.

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I agree with you both about not talking about the boyfriend. For the record, I didn't bring him up. My plan was just to make one funny comment about me not treating her nice and then change the subject immediately. Apparently I miscalculated though.

By the way Arch, I like your comment about inter dimensional chess with myself lol. Sounds about right.

If She is interested and is Very Very tempted and attracted to you, but is loyal to her boyfriend..Play the Best friend game, Get close to her.. stalk her (if you want, but not necessary) and wait for the opportunity,

ie: if they are having relationship problems
on a break etc


You strike bro! This technique is ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE PATIENCE.

Happened to me at the moment bro, this chick i insanely likes and adore is having relationship problems.
I striked, talked smooth/calm and comforting. Most importantly, be SUPPORTIVE. She finally wanted to hangout. I was lucky tho, used my recent breakup with me missus and created some very sympathetic story about it to MATCH whats happening to her hehe. I even put some bruises on myself, its sacrifice brutha, sacrifice. Gotta give a little to take a little. play cool, DONT GO IN FOR ANYTHNG ROMANTIC, if she initiates it. It will be a good sign.

gl bro.