Probably one of the best general texting tips to keep in mind. Given a stream of minimal responses from the girl, most AFC's will text themselves right out of pussy (regardless of how witty and PUA'ish their text content actually is). By overtexting you are showing you are vested, not a challenge, and thus DLV.

I learned my lesson (again) with that shit when I broke up with my last LTR with the first girl out of the gate who had my attention.

AFCd that shit out the park because I always kept the texts going without ever ejecting myself. She told me I was needy one day and I had to step back and look at that shit.

Hasn't happened since. Works much better when a girl is wondering where the fuck you went, or you say something and she replies with something like ??????? and you take 4 hours to reply to that with a totally new topic LOL.

Girls will sometimes get into a pattern of sending you texts for no fucking reason "I'm cleaning my living room now..." at which point you need to call them out on their boring ass shit.

Also, I've been trying to get this one cold girl warmed up to me, and it is working, albeit slow as hell. I've gotten to the point where I call her "General Stonewall" whenever we start getting sexty on the txt messages and she all of a sudden puts up the wall, which seems to make her want to dis-prove she is a stonewall by continuing to try and prove to me she will be good in bed once she comes out of her shell.

Hey everybody, its been a while since I posted here, but I'm back, and all hope is not lost with this situation, lol.

So after I thought I fucked it up with her and ruined my chances, I just let it go. Then two weeks later she called me and I didn't answer, my hands were actually full though. She sent me a pretty long voicemail basically saying she as busy and had wanted to take some time off, but that she wants to talk and see me soon.

She texted me the next day saying "Hey so you're not gonna talk to me anymore???"

and I responded back saying I had been very busy lately, and asked how she was, and she said doing pretty good.

I texted her once more about a week later, she texted back but I didn't respond

Also I JUST texted her an opener I read on here lol, one for flaky girls. I texted her saying:

" Lol I think I just met your twin ; ) " and she responded two minutes later saying

" Really thx for sharing. Are you trying to make me jealous. Hope she is younger."


I wasn't planning on responding any time soon, if at all, so any help from here would be appreciated.

Also, I won't be devastated if I don't get her, as I'm aware that theres a very good chance I won't. However I know that I still can if I play things right, because she still has attraction for me, and has told me before that she wants me.

So Respond Away!!

Lol, I'd say control your frame.

"You're silly, she's you're TWIN!"

Lol, control your frame.

"You're silly, she's your TWIN!"

So the text conversation continued, and actually ended pretty well. I'll post it below with the times so you guys get a better idea. Also I'll just put NAME instead of her real name.

Me: 2:17 pm "Hey I think I just met your twin ; )

Her: 2:19 "Really thx for sharing. Are you trying to make me jealous. Hope she is younger."

Me: 2:52 "No"

Her: 3:10 "No for what?"

Her: 3:11 "So why you need to inform me of those details?"

Me: 3:25 "I don't have time to argue now NAME. I'll talk to you another time."

Me: 3:26 "I don't like NAME you're acting like now, I like the real NAME, hope she comes back"

Her: 4:15 "Fine, I didn't like that you said that you met my twin! I thought that I was unique to you ; ) "


That was on Wednesday, it is now Friday, I was thinking of contacting her again soon. Also she is from Brazil, so thats why her grammar is a bit off sometimes.

I appreciate any tips I get, although I'm not looking exactly for things to say, but more overall how I should approach this, since the attraction is obviously still there, and she still thinks of me, how should I go about seeing her again.

And theres been a lot of views for this thread, I'd appreciate it if more people actually posted in it. Even if its something really small, it will help keep this thread going so I can get more help with this. Some of the advice I've gotten already has helped tremendously, even though I didn't listen and set back my progress. I'll try to give back anything I learn out of this experience, but I need all the support I can get.

Thanks guys

you drew a boundary and she responded positively to it with a gentle shit test. You should respond to it something C/F + reaffirming but keeping control of the frame. Right now she is showing interest but she is still fighting you for control of the frame, that's a a battle I suggest you win

Sounds solid. How would you go about phrasing a response like that? I was thinking something like:

"You are very unique to me NAME, I'm just deciding whether you're unique in a good way or a bad way ; ) "

I think thats a good thing to say, and I'm going to text her later today, but I'll see what you think first.

Well some advice would be good, but If not I'm going to text that to her in a couple of hours

this is good

Cool. I texted that to her at around 8:30 (2 hours ago) and she hasn't responded, so I'm just going to wait a couple days and see if she does.

Do you think she will? I think that would have been a better thing to say on that same day, but I'll see soon enough.

So she texted back about 3 hours later and the convo went like this:

Me 8:27: You are very unique to me NAME, I'm just deciding whether you're unique in a good way or a bad way ; )

Her 11:04: I am not sure what do you mean by that. Definitely we can be good friends.

Me 11:24: I don't think so.

Her 11:33: Ok thank you. What you want then?

Me 11:57: Everything. To experience your mind, body and soul. To share with you some of the things that I know. However, I don't play games, and neither did the special, sweet NAME I met, but maybe I was wrong about you.

Then about an hour later (1:00 a.m.) she called me, and I didn't answer. She left me a voicemail. I'll paraphrase. She was kind of stuttering at first, showing that she was kind of nervous. She said she was calling to see how I was, and wanted to clarify that she wasn't playing games with me, and never would do that to me. She said that she had just gotten a bit worried because she was older than me but that she was getting too involved. She said she's not a bad person and wouldn't play games with me, hopes she sees me soon and she'll talk to me soon.

I think thats very good actually, as it shows that she does have deep feelings for me. I was thinking about next time I see her basically convincing her that age doesn't matter, and telling her I think she is scared that I will move on and end up hurting her. I will try to convince her that that won't happen, and we should have fun while we can, instead of being too scared to have fun in the first place.

I was planning on calling her and saying we should talk when we see each other again at the gym. I pretty much have a plan but would like any tips/advice from here. Also let me know if I'm doing something very wrong that I'm not seeing.

Thanks

Deep feelings might be an exaggeration but Its good because you are gaming her well enough that you arnt eliminating yourself from contention. Since you haven't DLV'ed yourself she is attracted enough that she cant blow you off...yet. She is certainly going to continue to shit test you so be prepared, keep your strong frame.

Don't try to convince her about age, its not up to you to petition her about anything, just blow off the age thing saying "Im attracted to hot older woman sometimes, so you are in luck" or whatever. And keep trying to escalate and close her while she is being conflicted and wishy washy.

Dont fuck up now

Update:

So today I called her twice at around 6:30, she didn't answer. Then she called back at around 8:30.

Talked for seven minutes, it was very good. We planned to see each other at the gym tomorrow. I am going to train her, meaning lots of hands on action, and then we are going to swim together. We both knew what was going on, as the same thing happened last time I trained her. She made very many sexual implications during the talk, and she is still very attracted to me.

So all is well, wish me luck for tomorrow and I will make sure I put things back on the right track.

I also have a slight cold, but I will rest up and get rid of it before I see her. If someone is going to give me advice, please do so before I see her tomorrow at 4:00, I will stop checking this at around 3