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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:52 pm 
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In light of recent topics regarding Last Minute Resistance (LMR), here is some knowledge that can help with it.

What is Last Minute Resistance? Basically it's when the two of you are escalating towards sex and for whatever reason she begins doubting what she is doing and decides to 'slow' it down or 'stop' it.

Being in this situation requires of very particular awareness of how she is feeling at this time. I know it's very easy to be thinking about your penis and allowing it to make the decisions, but if you use your head, you'll both benefit.

Why I say this is because while she wants to have sex just as bad as you do, she can't. Remember, their a lot more consequences for girls having sex than their are for guys. The two main reasons are the social stigma for girls having sex, and the possibility of getting pregnant. The former is usually the one that pops up in most situations.

When a girl is about to have sex with you, their are a million consequences running threw her mind regarding the situation. She may be self-concious, she may have regrets after sex, she is afraid that what she is doing is considered sluttish/whorish by her friends/family/possibly you, she is worried that it might just suck and it wasn't worth it.

Whatever the reason it may be, the number one thing that CRUSHES all these excuses is simple, COMFORT, COMFORT, COMFORT.

The feeling that girls get from having these thoughts is the feeling of being uncomfortable. It arises sometimes because your game didn't make her feel comfortable enough, or sometimes because the girl is just really insecure.
If you bring her feeling back to a state of comfort, she will come up with her own excuses for having sex with you.

Now that you know what causes LMR and what abolishes it, let's take a look at how to actually make the girl feel comfortable.

Being understanding- If you ever been around someone who understands you, than you know exactly what I am talking about. It's that feeling that the person knows where your coming from, and is ok with the decision athat you make.
This is so key, b/c if a girl says she doesn't want to have sex with you that night, and you are honestly ok with it, it makes you the bigger man. In her eyes, you become the person who doesn't just want sex from her, and that your able to see the bigger picture. This can easily turn her on when she's sees that your unaffected by that decision.

Listening- This by itself can singly handily get anyone laid. In order to help with this one, you can repeat what she just said to her in a different context.
Her: I have a boyfriend, and I (feel bad cheating) on him
You: Don't (feel bad cheating) were just having fun.
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Her: I'm not (that kind of girl)
You: Who said I thought you were (that kind of girl).
Basically by repeating to her what she just said, you are showing that you are actually addressing what she is saying and at the same time, reframing how she thinks about it in a way that doesn't conflict with her own values/beliefs.

Turning her on- Being able to turn a woman on in bed plays a big role in abolishing LMR. For instance, by not immediately grabbing her tit's (specifically the nipples) or rubbing the vagina the first chance you get, you allow the tension to build up. The longer you wait and the more you tease her around these areas, the more sexual tension she will get. Going in very close to kiss her, and than slowly moving away as she tries to kiss is also a good. Massaging the inner thighs, nibbling on the earlobes, biting her shoulders, whatever it is that turns her on, do it.
Why is turning her on so important? Because women will allow their emotions rather than logic to dictate their actions. The stronger the emotions-sexual tension-, the less logical thinking their is.

Freeze out- I'm not a big fan of this one mainly because it has nothing to do with comfort and your working off the girls insecurities rather than her liberties, but it works so its here. Basically what it is, is when the girls decides that she doesn't want to go any further, you stop EVERYTHING that your doing, say ok, and immediately go do something else. What this basically does for the girl is put her into a state of confusion and tension. She has no idea what to do with this situation, and will normally try to diffuse it by reengaging into sexual play again. I recommend you only do this once because it loses its effect after the first time.

These pointer have a central notion in mind, YOU ARE LEADING THE SITUATION. While all the above pointers can help you in creating comfort, the most important tool you can ever use is your OWN judgement. Gauge the situation, and ask yourself what is going on here. Is she feeling insecure, is she just throwing up bull shit excuses, is everything taken care of? Remembering that the feeling of comfort can make girls do just about anything is important. While what you read may help guide the decision making process, it is up to and only you to serve the action.

Best of luck,

Samex


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Thanks for the excellent post Samex. I was wondering if you also have advice for ASD. Particularly for situations when it involves her having her friends there to judge her/take her home.


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Great post


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People can benefit from this :D


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What about freezing her out before she freezes you it. For instance you are both making out and then suddenly you stop the interaction saying it is going too fast and that things should slow down

Also Vin's escalation guide talks about fingering the girl from the back to avoid resistance. The key here is not to stop fingering her.


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I have never had success using a freeze-out, in the few times that I've tried it. I don't recommend that tactic.

I agree with your post. It is all about comfort. Also, if you can sense her discomfort, if you can voice uneasiness before she can, that is a powerful tool in creating a comfortable situation. "We really shouldn't be doing this..." then continuing to escalate tells her "I understand your concern. I feel the same way you do. This is just too hot to stop."


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What about freezing her out before she freezes you it. For instance you are both making out and then suddenly you stop the interaction saying it is going too fast and that things should slow down

Also Vin's escalation guide talks about fingering the girl from the back to avoid resistance. The key here is not to stop fingering her.
This seems like a legit idea. I've never done it before so I can't tell you for sure.
However, if you are sure that she is going to freeze you out, than do be shy to initiate it first.

Remember that LMR is 99% of the time a result of some level of feeling uncomfortable. So if she freezes you out than address the fact that you UNDERSTAND, and that its ok not to be doing this.

Like I said, i'm not a big fan of the freeze out, so I don't want to give you advice i'm not confident in.

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Thanks for the reply. LMR is equivalent to a block on a fast break. Im going to test out the pre-freeze out and see what happens.


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I need some advice here. (remember that I just met that girl)

well, I had this weird LMR at a party. Not once, but twice during the night with the same girl! We talked for a couple of minutes with 2 other friends (male and female) and then we started playing truth or dare (hardcore edition). During the game, I just felt like kissing her because she seemed interested. So we just start kissing out of nowhere lol. Everyone was kind of surprised and they left us alone in the room. So we make out heavily, take our shirts off, etc. She was on top of me rubbing herself against me and stuff. But then, she said something like "my friends aur just outside the room. It's weird" which I took as I don't want to look like a slut to my friends. I said "It's ok I totally understand". It was weird for real because our friends were talking just outside the door. Anyway, I knew that she was sleeping here for the night so.....

The night goes on, we sit together, touching eachother, talking, going outside. At some point, everyone it pretty tired so it's kind of time to go to bed. Then, there was a couple of akward seconds/minutes because friends had everything set up for the rooms (who goes with who). So me and my girl head into the room. Here's the real LMR. We start making out right away lol. We do it for a couple of minutes and then I said "take of your top" (weird top, could not do it myself). She does it and then we go back to kissing. She was on top of me, rubbing herself agaisnst me again so I told her to get on back (because I wanted to be able to at least reach her pants). We were dry humping. I kissed her on the lips, neck, breast. Shes was really into it and she was doing it too. I attempted to rub her pussy (I already rubbed her inner tight) but she gently took my hand away. I didn't resist because I was already thinking of stopping and trying again. When I tried again, she didn’t want to take off her pants. We continue kissing and, at some point, she said “I’m not the kind of girl to just meet a guy and fuck him.” At this point I was like damn, it seemed like her body wanted it but not her head. I tried a freeze out. I turned my back on her as if I was going to sleep. She started to touch me and play with my hair and suff. I decided that it was enough so I turned around and we made out once again but without result…..

I tried everything I knew about LMR but it still didn’t work. Is it possible that there was nothing I could do here? Or there is something I forgot that might have worked?

Should I have explicitly talked about oral sex since she wasn't really into sex?

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LMR is tough crack... I get them over and over again.... mostly because I am fast seducer and I skip a lot of steps ( I dont like to waste time)... great post and I agree with everything said. Freeze-outs have not worked for me so well either, neither is arousal. I think the key is just slightly backing off.... building C and then either try again or let her try. Its not a complete freeze-out

By the way how successful have you been samex ?


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Bumb?

No idea anyone?

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