Hi every one ,

I'm Ahmed and I have been in the game for about 7-8 months now and my success rate is 0% so far -.- , I mean in (sex or kiss closes ) so I feel like i'm a total new but i'm improving since I ran into Adam lyons stuff + Gambler's ( in the master pickup artist university ) anyways ,

I got some numbers last week that I told that I have " an after party " at .... place and none of them show up so no what should I try again when I see them out ( i live in a small college town so most people I meet in the day I see them in the night as well ) they are 5 ,, one is into me for sure because I talked about sex with her and she talked about her sexual problems and later during that night she started investing and complementing me and the night after that she was upset and crying and we talk for about like 2 miutes and them she told me I like you but then she didnt show up now what to do ?

the rest are pretty much just 10 minutes interaction and then number closes for the party and none show up so what to do ?

about texting I always missed it up so plss I need some tips basics at least ..

last thing is quick question : If i'm talking to a girl and things seem to be going well when I start kino and what is the best and the low risk kino tests to see if she is sexually interested so I can move forward ?


Thanks guys!!

I am not the best in this area but I have my successful moments.
So takes my advice as it is.

1. The girl that liked you, I think you weren't pushing for more enough so she probably thought you were scared or didn't like her. I think you should've invited her over the night she was calling you about her problems.

2. The after party, I think you might've came off desperate and girls hate that. Did your friends show up at all?

3. I like to gauge my girls. If they are on the shyer side, I have to start from arm on shoulder to thigh to lower back to stomach then cup a feel. But depending on their level of comfortability, i skip steps.

As for routines, I try to go natural but I will use routines as a crutch if I start running out of ideas.

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i'll reply according to your numbering to making easier ...


1: that girl ,, I'll tell you the whole story briefly so you understand everything ... she works in a resturant that 2 of my best friends uesd to work at so I uesd to show up and ask about my friend so I became a familer face to her so but we never talk till that day ; I all I remember was that she came near where I was sitting and apologize about something and we started talking and she asked me about an interesting thing about myself I told her that girls love my penis and we talked about sex for like 10 minutes and she ask me to go with her to a her friends place to play some beer games and along the way she started inversting and asking me about myself and she saw a guy near a bar with a gitar and she asked him to sing and play for us he did and she asked me for a dance we danced a bit and we went to her friend who werent there and we left to another place where we met people we know and we spend sometime there and she left due to having school in the morning ( thursday ) the next day I asked her if she likes parties and she said yeah I closed her and told her about that after party which is the next week we ran into each other after that and nothing happens and the night of that she saw me and hug me and asked about the location for that and she promised she was gonna come but she didnt ( I think maybe she forgot the location or she got drunk and comepletly forgot ) .. I need help in how to make sure whats going and get her back with me ...


2: well usually people pump into random people in outside of the bars and inviting them to after parties and that works most of the time!! but i didn't invitng so many male friends becsuse they are gonna hit on them so i'll be hooking people up with my girls with would be crazy!! so its possible and not really weird because I think i have comfort and breaking rapport and even might be quilification with all of them so just the sexual E. (which i'm not sure how to spike and the proper body language and eye contact for them ...)

3: thanks for that that is helpful !!

4: any good basics on text game to move stuff forward after what happened ?

1. She was yours... She went to all these places with you and she even made another guy a chode for you, yet you didn't close... Move on.

2. If you are worried about competing with your friends, you have none... For me its always bros before hoes. Maybe its my ex-gangster mentality but I will always give up pussy so I can shoot the shit with the homies. Girls love that, but don't do it because girls like it (Edit: Actually they hate it, but it makes them so emotional your gonna get some pussy after this), do it because there your friends. Hoes come and go, friends are for life.

3. NP

4. Text game or any game in general is a reflection of you. Change starts within. If you don't give a fuck, then it will come out on your texts. But as a starter, I always try to reply later than they do.

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True, but the quality of your male friends reveals your own quality. Since changing my personality, the caliber of guy that I chill with has transformed. Now I hang with guys that have a good shot at stealing my girls, but we have trust and they bring girls of their own.

So its as important to get male numbers on these nights out as female numbers. Get the alpha males, the ones who run the group. Start building a social group. Send out weekly texts inviting people out to party. And I mean literally text the same people every single week.

Make up some funny routine for it: "Party train leaving the station! All aboard! I (plus some) will be at [bar name] tonight. Final destination: My pants. Dont miss the ride of a lifetime."

That's off the top of my head. Write a few, then make a habit of inviting everyone out. At some point, one person will say yes. You meet up with them, make some little excuse about how everyone bailed this time, but last weekend was good, and invite them out again next week. Before too long you'll be going with a fun group every time.

1: REALLY ?? its like DEAD ? I don't think so there must be a way to hit that shit because the interest is there and everything else is just one night together with some kino and S E and boom but i'm not sure what to do to get that night thats why I'm asking about the some texts game for her + text game for the others as last shot or "move on the next one!" + the logistics weren't completely right because there where 2 other people with us and we went with them so its a little confusing to a rookie ( even less ) -.- ,,,

2: well my HOOMIES never got me girls why should I be that crazy to get a 9 and 3 8s and just give them away to them like that ?? NO because they wouldn't do it for me at least most of them only one hooked me up and is trying to do it again now so that one HELL yeah he is way more important than hoes but the others nope! ... because unfortunately most people forget they friends with they find hoes so most of my friends are the same ...

3: Slip n Slide thanks thats a cool advice i'll try to work it out some how ,,

1. I wasn't there. Ultimately you have to decide for yourself... But from the information given and your style of response shows you are way too invested. You are in one-itis zone right now.

2. Most guys act differently once girls come into the equation and I usually let it slide because I KNOW. not think, not ponder, not wish, KNOW I can get girls and so do my friends. They've seen me pull bitches and I want them to get pussy too, so I let them feel alpha. HOWEVER, all my friends know if they cross the line, they're gonna get smashed on and there walking home with a few missing teeth.

3. Not to oustage you, or outshine you... But you got out alpha'd in a forum. I got you into my rhythm. I'm not saying its always a bad thing but if you are so insecure about it, at least be conscious of what's going on around you.

4. A little advice, none of my friends ever got me girls. But you look good by making your friends look good. Those who try to put you down in front of girls don't become much in life anyways, so don't worry too much about them too much.

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IDEO - Trial & Error > Planning of the Lone Genius.
IDEO - Fail Often, Succeed Sooner.

10% Luck
20% Skill
50% Concentrated Power of Will
5% Pleasure
15% Pain
100% Reason to continue the Game.

1: Dude : meeting when you are chilling with friends and talking for 5 minutes and going to an after party ( stopped by the guitar guy on the way for 5 minutes ) ? and spend an hour in the after party socializing with everyone called way too over investing ? how ?
2: well told ya i'm a rookie i'm learning so i'm not expecting to become a master in 8 months ?? so I should be not insecured just concerned for a bit about it!

3 : I completely missed your point here Sorry !

4 : yeah you are right thats why my best friend is natural and he know that I'm a rookie so he helps me and I try to hook him up if I find anyone interesting that I'm just a friend with !

Cheers!