He guys,

Lets keep it short. I don't get the fclose done. I'm getting pretty solid when it comes to getting the kiss but further escalation leads to resistance which i respect and take serious. I then leave, go home and think what the hell.

I first thought well maybe i don't like the girls i'm with enough, they might sense this and won't let me escalate to sex. I've only been approaching 8+ since that day but still no change.

# Case 1
HB 8,5
I know her from elementary school .. nothing happened back then. She started asking me things on FB. We met up for a drink we had fun and she brought me home. Second time at her place we watched a movie and she started to come closer to me.. I noticed and pulled her to me.. We cuddled for a bit and i left (i prommised myself not to do anything because she lives in the stuppid little place my whole familly lives in and everyone knows one another)... I remember i asked her if i could stay the night with her (i just wanted to see what happend) ... she said no i said ok and left.... third date we went to the cinema ... all tickets were sold out .. we went to a bar and shit test after shit test ... She wanted to sit outside (freezing cold).. i was not affected at al ... i manged to get her in by being a man... we talked and i would give her some intens looks and was verry relaxed .. she laughed a lot and started touching me a lot ... I kissed her on the way to the car ... She asked should i get u home ... I said i had an hour left and we could go to her for a drink but i had to leave real quick ... she agreed ... We kissed and touched on the couch .... she was seriously arrowzed at ths point ... My hands wouldn't touch het genitals but my knee would stimulate her a bit ... than after 1 hour she said you should go ... i was like fcourse (i thought maybe show her i could leave and yet don't) we were sort of push pulling while getting my jacked on etc. I would lift her and drag her to the bed ... she resisted for a bit and i was like fuck it bring me home ... next day i texted her for a bit ... but slowly we lost connection.... I concider this case closed now.

# Case 2
HB 8
4 years older than me
Verry intelegent girl and i like her a lot .... Met her a year ago when i was in a relationship ... From her eyes i knew she liked me ... We never changed numbers but i knew she did her entire masters at the same university i study and therefor i would meet her again anyway ... I broke up with my girlfriend and asif it was ment to be bumped into her short after the break up. I was still in my "i can't speak to other girls" mindset and didn't ask her number. Same week i bumped into her again and this time i did... We would text for a bit but from her response time i could tell she had only little interest in me ... i decided to play it cool and not overload her with texts but text only as much as she did ... A few months later i bumped into her again at the university bar and i got her to commit to going to the gym with me ... She showed up late and wanted to do a rediculously long warm up ... i however went on to my own scedual as normal and didn't take the shittest by waiting ... Finally we started to exersize together and i lead her... I was verry relaxed and gave her some intense looks and complements .... she would slowly get comfortable with me ... I didn't text her for a week and then i could tell from her text she was pretty interested again ... We went to the gym and this time it was even better ... She agreed to join a free class of capoeira with me the week after ... At the lesson i didn't take her sittests teased, kino'd her a bit and showed her my capoeira skills ... she had lots of fun i could tell ... When we left i got her to agree to a night walk ... We talked and talked and before i knew we were in front of her house ... First i wanted to kiss her but i felt she wouldn't agree ... so i said u have tea ... She said yes but i have to kick u out soon... we went in got tea and after some boring topics (study related) she wanted to talk about i was fuck it i'm kissing her so i told her to smile now ... No you have to smile with your eyes .. let's help you and went in ... she was like nononono ... i held back but gave her an intense look and said nothing ... i slowly went in again ... with slow i mean 30 seconds before i touched her lips ... she now liked it and we slowly built up tension... i was touching her ... she reciprocated for a bit ... we kissed for 20 minutes or so untill she was like i have to kick u out ... yes i know i have to leave, but not before i hugged you to death .. we hugged and this felt good ... i lifted her up and moved her towards the exit ... She kissed and likked my lips when i held her so i decided not to get her to the exit but trow her on the bed ... she said "nono .. not that i didn't like it, it was quite the opposite actually but i have to work on a presentaion" (1 o'clock nighttime) you have to leave ... yes i know ... she pushed me on the bed (with a certain look) and got my stuff ...
I changed her face changed from an intellegent rational girl to that of a sexual pedator. While getting my jacked she gave me looks played her hair etc... i went home and trew a snowball at her window (dunno why) ... next day i texted "downloading film ... right now!" we had been talking about a film she didn't see... however no response ..... day after i called her once because i went to the gym ... she didn't pick up .... i haven't done anything for two days now ... tomorrow however there is a capoeira class she invited herself to after she joined the last one with me ...

#Case 3
This one represent multiple interactions i had.
This is what happens ... i'm at a bar ... i'm relaxed, i make intense eyecontact, i'm not afraid of anything and i get ioi's ...
as soon as i notice i move in and escalate verry fast ... kiss within 30 sec.
Sometimes we make out for an hour sometimes 5 minutes... i however don't get reponses to my texsts.
This last girl was realy into me (HB9-9,5) i opened her and i saw she wanted to kiss me almost right away ... we kissed and touched for half an hour in the middle of the bar ... i get the number and move on to the next bar and repeat this ... however i never get a response to my texts ...

So i once did this...after the kiss i tell her lets get out of here ... i don't live close so my mind was like where the fuck actually ... she said to where ... my place!! and she looks in my eyes for a few seconds and finaly sees i'm thinking about the 1 hour of public transfer to my place ... and she says i should go to my girlfriends ... i say like i always do yes i have to go to mine as well and we never reconnect on the phone


Guys i'm open for any critics and suggestions to please react to one or more of the cases

hmmm thats tough id say what might help especially in case #1 is that after youve dealt with a little lmr from the girl you stop immediately and start talkin about the next date you two are going on or just briefly mention something like hey we should try out that new restraunt in town next week. then the girl will feel more at ease that your not gonna just fuck her and leave. this justifies her reasoning to have sex with you cause she wont feel as bad havin sex with some guy if she knows its not gonna just be a one night stand.

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Guys this is a little update about case 2...

Rockstar815 thanks for your reply ... this might solve the lmr im going to aplly asap ...

But now my #Case 2

Summary; "Long history in texting the girl... We met 3 times ... last time i invited myself to her house ... positive response ... some boring conversation ... we kissed even after she refused to i proceeded with a good result ... after 20-30min of making out she told me to leave ... She told me and i could see she had liked it

Next day: Text "Downloading film ..... right Now!" (we spoke about some film she didn't see) no response
Day 2: Called no response
Day 4: Call no response/ (pauze 30min) / Call no response / Text "He **** ... there's capoeira today ... want us to have fun without u?" / no response / (hour pauze) / Call "she reply's says hey i say hey and the connection broke" / Text from her "i am calling u later now it's a problem" / me call after 2 hour no response / i now wayt

The question is this and i know this isn't over yet ... but how do you guys manage a situation where u kissed a girl ... she was turned on! ... but her responses via text/calls the next days are very low....?????

From the looks of it dude, you seem to be lacking comfort building, certainly in case #3 and by the looks of it maybe in case #2 aswell. Also with case#2 try to view it from an outsiders point of view, you attempt to contact her 5 times with no response, then you contact her and the connection mysteriously gets cut, she then texts you saying she's gonna call you later (the 'now its a problem' part doesn't seem good to me) and you try to call her again.

I generally have a rule, if I attempt to contact it's 3 strikes and they're out. First time is acceptable, second time at a push but the third time you gotta realise that any more is just gonna come of as needy, and I'm talking about spreading these out over a few days, not all in the same day, as I noticed you did this a few times.

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She wasn't turned on bro. A girl who gets turned on doesn't kick a guy out after 20-30 of kissing. Just saying.

6 "no response" and you still trying. Brother, know when to cut your losses. This girl is not interested in any way, and I am actually a little concerned about how many times your trying to make contact with this person.

Just trying to save you time, move on.

Samex

Ok guys

I now conceive her not replying as a clear message myself
Maybe i'm a little arrogant and just didn't believe she wasn't that into me

I now see there was definately a lack of comfort. I noticed even the last time i saw her when i told her i was as non-judgemental as can be....(I felt she thought i was) ...And yes in her eyes i saw she didn't really believe me
An other thing was when we were talking about musical taste ... she was kind of afraid to tell me .. and when i later took her mp3 player to listen she froze up ... She took all my teasing or neggy stuff as verry serious ... Once i found out i decided to cut it off ... but teasing is in my personallity ... How can i in any case following get some deep comfort ...
On the way to her house we talked about our child hood / familly etc.... Thats comfort right
When i see my ex girlfriend i have these "lack of comfort" moments as well .. Its probably because i can be a little distanced and rationalise feelings etc. But she would always bring some topic up that would make me emotional
As soon as the first tear pops out she hops onto my dick.
My history in getting a relationnship with my ex was pretty hectic (She, hb 9,5, i was 15 she 18.). I'm not easilly emotionally effected since then.
My last fuckbuddy had the same ... i'm solid as a rock you know ... not vulnerable at all.
Now you guys might understand i dont want to fake crying with any HB i lay
So deep comfort? or how to be a little vulnerable .. just enough?


But from this point what should i do?
Not contact her for a week?
Not replying to her messages if any come up? (she responded intense to this when i tried it before)
And if i contact her after a week should i go into comfort?
Or conceive it a closed case?