A month ago, I came out of a three year relationship. I'm twenty, and have had practically no experience with picking up girls. However, I'm decent looking, confident and can hold a conversation. Also, I'm in college, practically the easiest place to meet new girls. I decided to jump right in at the deep end (probably not a great idea in retrospect) and went for a smoking hot girl in my course, a definate HB9.

So here's the story so far: I get talking to her during class one day. A few hours later, I'm eating with some friends. I get a message from a number I don't know asking me if I'll be in the student bar later. I reply, asking who this is. It's the girl from my course. She went and got MY number from someone. Awesome. So later I head to the bar. She arrives a while later. I head over and say hi, and we spend most of the night talking. Later she says she's heading to a club nearby, the same club me and my friends are going to. I wait with my friends and say I'll see her there soon. But when we arrive at the club, it's so full that we don't get in. We head across the road for some food, and when we're finished, everyone is leaving the club. I spot the HB9 and head over. She's really, really drunk. When we're talking, she leans in really close, her face is about an inch from mine. I take this as a cue and kiss her. She kisses me for a second or so, then pulls away, saying "You've just broken up with your girlfriend". I tell her that was a month ago, I'm over it. She kisses me on the lips, but just for a second, then walks backt to her friends. A little while later, she comes over, puts her arm around my waste and asks if I'm coming back to her friend's house. I do, of course, but at the house we get no oppurtunity to talk. I send her a text telling her she looks gorgeous, she responds saying she's too drunk, and askes to meet me tomorrow.

Cut to next day. I see her in the student bar that afternoon. She talks to me for a minute or so, then goes back to her friends. I get some lunch, then come back about twenty minutes later with a friend. HB9 comes over on her own and says she's been around the bar three times looking for me. We hang out for the next two or three hours, conversation is good but there's no mention of last night.

I haven't seen her since then, but we've been texting every day since. Most of the time, she initiates the conversation. She also invited me out on wednesday but (and I was very annoyed) I genuinely couldn't go. On thursday night, I got drunk and sent her a message telling her I really liked her (oops). No reply. But then on friday, I get a text from her apologising that she couldn't text me back on thursday night. No mention of what I said though.

Here's the thing: When we text, it's like we're just friends. But she obviously knows I'm very attracted to her. And she still initiates conversations. I'm very confused. What can I do to take this further? Is there anything I can say in messages? I'll likely see her out on monday night, should I just get talking to her again and go for the kiss close?

Ahh !shit !Its the same thing that happened to me bro but its only hb8 though, BTW she is the first practice I did, Anyway, Once I text her and no reply. I simple dont double text because it shows that your needy and desperate to get her. Which PUA dont do.

My suggestion is wait until she texts you. Game other gurls out there, dont be stagnant. Go to the next target while waiting for her. Dont burn the bridge with her coz you dont know she might need you for bed. Dont act that you need her really bad. If you want to call her and she wont answer the phone just leave a short message, I always say like this, It works for me. " Hey, this is joe, when you get a minute hola at me back". Im still a newbie and Im just sharing what I learn so far.

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i`d agree. go game other girls. however, if u really wanna take it to the next level, then when u meet the next time i suggest u ask her status and why. that wya u noe whether she is single cause of a reason. i say this cause she reminded u that u just broke up with a chick and that might be something similar on her mind or somethin. ppl tend to let out inner stuff when they are drunk.

you need to game her like a normal HB. DHV yourself, some preselected stories would be good. negs are definitely a plus. try to get away from texting every single day. you may come off as too needy EVEN if she responds. it looks like you have nothing better to do sometimes.

she is probably attracted to you at an A3-C1 phase if you're going by the mystery method. so she's attracted to you and wants to get to know you better but you're being watched constantly. she's waiting to find out if you're a jerk, if you're not confident enough, blah blah blah. any flaws that you may have so she can move on.... OR she's waiting for the alternative which is that you guys have such a great connection. you're confident, alpha, funny, etc.... so that she can justify going out with you.

she is worried about being a rebound relationship since it LOOKS like you're so eager to get with her/someone else. you need to make her feel special but also throw negs. make her feel special not by saying "i like you". do it by gaining rapport. make her feel comfortable, make her invest more time. get to know her more.

don't talk about your ex girlfriend. maybe say your views on relationships/dating, whatever they may be. are you trying to become a PUA? are you trying to make her a f-buddy? or do you want to make her your girlfriend?

if you just want to sleep with her, you shouldn't lie about anything. tell her that you're just interested in dating, and just ask her on a date. but make it subtle and game her normally. just say: "hey, lets get some lunch. i know this great restaurant" or something. anything works. just get her isolated so you can game her normally...

hopefully that helps. good luck

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by Casual (Age 20, Upcoming PUA)

Ok, update on the situation. She's in a similar situation to me: she was dumped by a guy a few weeks ago and is still in love with him, but he's with someone else now and she's pretty bitter about the whole situation. I never considered she think I'm just on the rebound though. Good point.

Problem: we are in the same course, which has less than 40 people, and we hang out alot. If I don't do something soon, we'll end up as friends with no potential for anything else. On the other hand, making a move when she's still pining over her ex could be disastrous.

Casual, you ask if I want to make her a f-buddy, or my girlfriend, or whatever. In all honesty, I don't know. I haven't stopped gaming other girls though. I used saturday night as a practice night, I opened with around 20 girls, talked to them for about 5 minutes each, then moved on. towards the end of the night, I #closed and kiss closed on a HB7. Not bad for my first proper night at this.

Oh, one last thing. me and some friends going over to her house tonight to get stoned with her and her housemate (who I've become friends with). Heh.

What you don't need is more of the pointless gibber jabber you've been feeding her up to this point.

I read the advice give about telling her more DHV stories and asking her lunch.......I think you're quite beyond all that having much effect... you've been screwing around way too much with is why your becoming annoyed with the girl tell what you really want and your a guy you know what you reallly want from a woman

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I'm almost as sweet as lemon juice... almost

This one's a write-off. She was the first girl I went for after a three year relationship. Next time I'm going to go for a girl I don't like so much. I was way too crazy about her, and couldn't keep control when I was talking to her.

On the plus side, I kiss-closed two girls this week. I really need to work on kino, I didn't even come close to f-closing either of them.