I know nobody wants to read long, extended, overly-detailed stories...so I will break it down in bullet points

*We met through a friend and we INSTANTLY clicked and clicked deeply ( sense of humor, interests, overall disposition). we did not kiss or anything since it wasnt a date setting.

* I didnt know she had a BF until she added me on facebook a few days later

* we talk via phone and text for hours nearly everyday (sometimes she initiates, sometimes I do). We have gotten to the point where we heavily flirt ( especially on my part...but she definitely doesnt tell me to stop.)

* She never mentions her bf....only by name 2 or 3 times to indicate she was with him when i texted.

* She works 60-80 hours a week, has a bf, so its very difficult to set anything up,

*He does take her out quite often and seems like a nice guy...but honestly he seems like a pussy and overly caters to all her needs and womanly bullshit ( aka when she acts like a bitch he cowers). I am pretty sure she wants a more manly man, excitement, and someone who challenges her more.

*We have hung out 3 times....kino escalation each time ( leg grab, tickle war, playful wrestling when trying to keep each other from paying at our outing).

*Even though shes smart, beautiful, hilarious, confident,....she gets really bashful when i compliment her and flirt with her.

We have been talking, building rapport, interest for 2.5 months. I keep waiting for her to bring up her bf but she never does (whether they are awesome together, terrible together, or its fizzled out. To be honest I like the chase and excitement...and obviously she does to. But now it seems she has backed off a bit, i think either out of frustration or she thinks I am not interested.

My question is this. I am going to ask her out.....should I bring up her bf and what their relationship is like ( just to game her a bit and see if shes willing to move on from him) before , during, after this date? Or should I just kiss close her during the date and deal with the consequences and discussion after the kiss?


Or if any of you have any other insight let me know. There is no doubt in my mind that she likes me....I just need to start pulling the trigger so that things dont fall apart. I am not usually the type that goes after attached girls ( in fact it’s a turn off) , but she seems like my ideal girl in almost every way…and my interest in her has only increased over the last few weeks/months.

I think it goes without saying....I am not wanting to just bang this girl, I want to date her. Yes, she might be open to someone behind her bf's back....but i think shes worth the fight and it seems like their relationship has just fizzled out.