Hey all,

I have dated with a girl now 3 times, the second time she fell asleep in my bed but nothing happened. The third time she was drunk as hell and knocked at my door 4 AM. I opened and she fell asleep again! She woke up early and left immediately.

After that, we texted a bit, and I asked her to hang out on friday. She said yes, but she canceled on the friday itself because she said she was ill.

I replied a bit grumpy saying: 'to bad, well maybe I'll see you around some day'.
The next day she texted me, and I responded rather late. We kept texting, and we imagined organizing a baywatch party. When I asked her: 'when are we going to organize this party?' she replied by saying she was very busy and had a lot to do for an exam next week.

I really have enough of this sh*t. What should I do? I do want to see her again, but I hate this feeling of her having control of it. Should I even respond?

No one?

Id also love a good response to this.

Its so easy when you have the control, but sometimes when you are the one trying to meet a new girl, she has the power to choose yes or no. which is bullshit but is just the way it is.

I get stuck in this situation every now and then too man so youre not alone.

It usually isnt worth the time if theyre being like that, but this one girl I had recently I just kept being persistant with her and she eventually came round.

I'm in the same position as you mate. Check my topic in this same forum.

Right now I'm in the middle of a freeze out, toning down how much I interact with her, then come back again in a week or so to invite her to something really cool.

Maybe you could try the same thing. Just get on with your life in the meantime.

Fuck this girl...if she's showing up at 4am drunk...she wanted dick. Next, if u dig the girl, don't say dismissive things when she doesn't respond well. I normally lay out a plan n ask if they wanna be a part of it. When she texts for the next week, keep your answers short n blow her off politely. Then come back with an amazing plan n present it to her. If she is into it, great. If not, move on. I personally feel that its not worth backtracking to chase a girl. There are sooooo many beautiful girls on this planet to let one do anything. Especially 8s...this planet DEFINITELY isn't hurting for 8s.

I agree with Kinorc. Seems like she was looking to hookup but you didn't pull the trigger. Twice... Was there any escalation at all? No makeout? No boobie grab? No sexual talk in any way? Or did she walk into your home, head straight to your bedroom and immediately fall asleep? Stop being the nice guy. I'm not saying rape the girl, but be a little aggressive. Show her you're a man. Take control.

As for what to do with this one, FREEZE her out. If she texts you, keep your responses short. Sometimes don't respond back until the next morning. Your response should hint to the fact that you had something better to do than text her. "Just got back from the the hot tub with some friends. Wussup?" If she responds back, keep your reply short.

Her: Nothing, just wanted to say hello
You: OK

DO NOT INVITE HER OUT AGAIN!!! DO NOT TEXT HER FIRST!!!

Freezing a girl out definitely works. Here is a transcript from a girl I've been talking to. Our history is, I've made out with her friend (3-way kiss), we've hung out a few times, but have only actually slept together once. Believe me, there were plenty of opportunities.. Anyway, I guess she got tired of my games and flaked on me last Friday.. I took it as a sign of disrespect and started freezing her ass out. Don't tend to a dog bite immediately and the bite will become infected.

Her: Hey... miss u
Me: Prove it
Her: Wow lol
Me: Actions speak louder...
Her: Took me an action to text it
Me: but your action is just words

Next Day
Her: Hey baby
Me: Baby? Who is this?
Her: lol, just wanted to see what smart comment u'd give me
Me: Oh it's *HB*
Her: Ha ha

Next Day
Her: Hey
Me: Hey
Her: What u doing?
Me: Hanging with my daughter
Her: Awww

Next Day
Her: Hey
Me: Hey
Her: What u doing?
Me: Hanging with my daughter
Her: Hows she doing?
Me: Complete sweetheart
Her: Awww... well, i'll let you enjoy her
Me: Ok
Her: Lol... wanna do dinner and movie tomorrow... ur turn to cook lol
Me: Sounds good, but you're cooking since you canceled on me last week.
Her:
Me: Or you can give me a back massage
Her: I'll cook lol
Me: Done deal
Her: Salad it is
Me: Sounds like a great appetizer. What else is on the menu
Her: What do you feel like having
Me: Meatloaf, mashed potatoes, peas, dinner rolls
Her: Mmmm sounds yummy
Me: You're cooking so it better be
Her: LOL

So.. Freeze her ass out..

yea this is a pretty good example. but this girl is obviously already really into you. Its harder when you just met a girl once, and you still havent been able to win her over, just because of lack of opportunity.

However if she isnt willing to give you the time of day and keeps flaking, then shes obviously not worth it.

not true... i've frozen girls i've never met... one just recently... made a topic about it also...

it can be done...

its not a fail-proof method though. see in your example the girl texted you first saying miss you. You rarely get that attractive women youve only met once. theyre not that easy

no method is fail proof...

yes, there was attraction built between this girl and I. Maybe this example isn't the best, but as I said, I made a post of another example of me freezing a girl out and I've never even met her.

Either way... if there is something better to do, then go with it.. I'm just making a suggestion that has worked for me. Maybe it's not for everyone, and maybe it's not for this situation.

Just a suggestion...

good work with that girl tho looks like shes all yours

Some good answers here, thanks! The first time she fell asleep there was sexual tension but there was some LMR and I'm not the guy to go caveman.

Anyway, she kept texting and we finally met somehow by accident on a party. She said she didn't like the fact I was so short in my text replies. I said I was pissed of that she canceled the date 'being ill and busy' and asked her what she did on a party, being 'ill'. In the end we did make up and we kissed. We walked home together and she asked to sleep at my place, but I still felt pissed and had to work next day so I rejected her.

Anyway, I decided to stop texting her. See if she invites me, if not, fuck it. Enough other girls on the planet.

Another lesson learned I suppose.

Blasting through lmr is a crucial part...you don't have to go cavemsn n keep going against her wishes, but with most girls lmr is all about them not feeling like a slut. If she is in your bed fooling around she's into it. If she is in your bed period she is there so you make a move. Do not be the nice guy. Be the guy who's fucking her. Let her friends snuggle with her n go to sleep. Next...why the fuck did u tell her u were kissed about her short text?!?!? You never level with them n give away your power. If she said she was mad ur texts were short say ur busy or literally ANYTHING other than "I was mad and freezing you out". You just gave away your entire tactic n made it useless. Finally...buy coffee and a coffee pot or two energy drinks n just keep them on deck! Do you have any idea how many hours of sleep mankind has lost because we wanted to get laid?! Lol I don't know what kind of job you have, but losing a couple hours to fuck is worth it. You will wake up refreshed, after the coffee alert, n after kicking her out, like a champion. If she wanted to sleep w/...she wanted to sleep with you. I dunno buddy other than her screaming "fuck me already jesus fucking christ", what more do you want. She's showing up drunk at 4am to be with u. She's listening to you act like a child n is still kissing you and wanting to sleep in your bed. I bet she is 10x as confused as I am lol...im not really confused you just have a trigger pulling issue. Once you realize that if a girl is alone with you in you bed, she wants to be, you will know what im saying. It def took me a min to learn that when I was alot younger. Like we r alone now what...if she is alone with you, she wants you to make a move. Just build tension n capitalize my friend. You had some misplays, but don't worry!! Like you said learn the places you could've played better, n smash an even hotter girl next time if you give up on this one.

oh wow she asked to stay over???

why not man.....