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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:53 pm 
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I met her on her birthday about 4 months ago. 2 of my friends were going to her birthday dinner and asked her if they could bring a friend which ended up being me. We talked a bit but after dinner her friends wanted to go somewhere we didn't really wanted to go so we ended up not seeing them that night. I sent a friend request on facebook and she accepted. He talked a bit in the facebook chat the next day and a few other times but nothing that important.

About 2 months ago, me and my friends were in the club we go every weekend and she showed up there. We talked a bit but after a while her friends wanted to leave (they hate the place and she's the only one in her group who likes it). After this I have been talking to her more often on facebook and a few text messeges.

We both and most our friends are students and we're currently on exams period so we don't go out as much as we'd like but 2 weeks ago she posted on facebook she was going out. I was tired but a friend was telling me to go out (he hasn't had many chances to go out with us as much as he'd like lately and no one else from our group was going) so I decided to go. I texted her and she was with her friends heading to a bar we'd never tried so me, my friend and a few of his other friends (2 girls and a guy but all 4 are already in a relation) went there. It turned out the girls were still outside waiting to be able to enter and when we arrived they decided go with us. We headed towards our usual club but stopped in a bar close. I was trying to convince her to come to the club but her friends didn't wanna go. Her friends called me and told me I could go with her but I had to take care of her and nothing could happen to her or else I would be sorry (jokingly obv).

So she went to the club with me and 4 other people she didn't know (she had talked to my friend once before but that's it). We were there for a while, talked, had a good time but I never made the move. She couldn't drink more than a beer or 2 as she was driving and eventually we both left and she dropped me off at my house.

Yesterday it was a friend of mine's birthday and she was coming too and she only knew me and that friend (and my friend from 2 weeks ago was coming too). I talked and joked with her during the dinner, we went to a bar and had a good time again and we even went to that club but I couldn't make the move once again. She was driving again today so she dropped me once more. My friends told me I should make the move because she has to be interested as she left her friends the other night to be with me and this night she spend most of the time with me.

My problem is that I never had a girlfriend and only made out a few times with some random girls in a club because I got lucky. What advice can you give me? What are some readings and/or videos you recommend me?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:22 pm 
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I used to have this problem with making the first move because it seemed like such a big jump. I think this is where you are getting stuck, correct me if I'm wrong.

What you need to do is take a step back and look at the IOI's it seems like she is into you from how much you guys are hanging out and the way her friends are always encouraging you guys to hang out.

What I normally do in a bar with this situation is do an arm link, cocky funny think old romance movie where the people go arm in arm to a dance floor, and lead her through the bar, works better if its crowded. Drop your arm and lead her when space gets tight and try to take her by the hand, I normally do this when I am going up to the bar for a drink. Keep hand contact and pull her closer when you guys are at the bar. If you are still hesitant to make the move start a staring contest with her if you get a chance and place your forehead against hers with noses touching, it's more natural once you actually do it. If you get to this position just go for it. I would give you advice on a way out if it doesn't work but I have had a 100% success rate when I run this.

Feel free to make an alteration but I have found this is a great way to step by step escalate with someone you know pretty well. It's not some random girl whos rejection you really don't care about.

From what you are saying you are in a very good position, good luck


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:27 pm 
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Thanks. She's gonna have a few exams but she agreed to have dinner at my house in about 2 weeks. She said she would bring a friend but that's not a problem since this way it's the 3 of us plus my roomate. I told her to not bring the car so she wasn't that worried about having to drive.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 pm 
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At this point, you have enough to make a move (although, the optimal time to have made your move was at the club when she left her friends ). I would certainly say one thing;

The first move doesn't have to be a big one. You'll want to microescalate. Start by holding her arm in arm. Get closer to her face when you speak (but don't break eye contact). You you lean in the speak to her (assuming the club is loud), put your arm around her back when you lean in to talk, then around her shoulders the next time, then around the back of her neck. Change the way you look at her, start...talking....a....little....more....slowly...and....use....lots....of.....pauses....

Then move in.

Don't move in verbally at this point. You don't want to ask "would you like to kiss me?" or simply lunge in, it's kind of like putting it all on the wire. If you escalate smoothly you have nothing to lose.

Go for it!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:51 pm 
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Thanks. I liked your response. We'll probably go to that club after the dinner (and a bar or 2 in between) and I'll have to try it.


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Thanks for your advice. A week ago I was going out with friends. I had invited her but she said she probably wouldn't be able to appear. At a certain point she surprises me asking where I am and than showing up. It was one of those nights that each of us guys gets separated for some reason and we both ended up alone. We talked for a bit and hit a bar. After a while we went to the club and there I finally made a move. She avoided the first try but we ended up kissing. After this we've met each other a couple of times but she wants to take it slow.


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