ok so heres the deal. I'm talking with a girl who i used to hook up with and after a while things got complicated and we just went our seperate ways. i text her and we start chatting for a bit. next day she calls randomly saying shes at a party, which i assume is a good sign, says shell call me back but never does (expected.). i text her the next day with no response, then she hits me up on aim the day after, and after a convo says " i just realized if it wasnt for me we wouldnt be talking, lol" i take it as her saying i should be the one hitting her up and not her. so next day i call, kind of an ok convo, she also gave hints she didnt really want to talk but we did anyway so maybe im reading too much into it. after i mention (stupidly) we take t gaaameee urns each day messaging each other, which reveals sort of my strategy with her and how i wait for her to say something then if she does i hit her up th next day.. so in the end she said shell call back but never does, but she was still on aim and messaging other people on myspace.... today comes and my options were to call her again ( maybe seem desperate because i called her twice) or not call her at all (risking looking like i dont care).. my choice was wait till she comes online and if she doesnt then wait till the weekend to see if she wanted to chill.. i feel like me mentioning the we take turns calling each other gives her a opening for a shit test that maybe she wanted me to call her today but i analyze too much so i dont even know. long story short whats the verdict, or any advice for my text/ phone game which is terribly not as good as my face to face game.. also this girl is a 8 with guys flocking to her, because she is a flirt, she just broke up with her boyfriend, and has a lot more experience with guys than i do girls, shes very manipulitive and i just dont know how to go about this..

Pfft sounds like phone tag. SomethinI'm not a big fan of. Seems like she's already busy and wants to keep you as a plan b. I wud say leave the bitch hangin n den let her c u talkin to another girl. Up ya social proof n c if it has any affect on her. If it does she'll prob get a bit jeolous n want sum attn & start hittin u up. If it has no effect on her then just fuck it and move to the nxt. I'm sort of in da same situation with one dat I'm talkin to. She a hb8.5 & I kno she has np gettin other guys attn. Matter of fact last we spoke, she tld me she went out on sum dates over the wkend. I've only had her # for a wk now. Our convo's dnt start unless I txt first and even when they get goin, she usually disappears. Now I'm assuming either she busy, dnt hve an unlimited txt plan or txt'n ain't her thing. So Ima wait til after te wkend and c if she ever hits me up first. If not, Ima give her a call for the first time, and if the vibe still ain't rite, she's dropped. Sumtimes u can't keep chasin cuz den dey c u as desperate and less dominate. And women like men dat r more dominate than dem

Im in the same situation lol
hooked up, tried to get her out a couple of times... always hear the same thing... "ill let you know", but never gets back to you lol yet doesnt mind texting back and forth... hard to say whats going on, you might be right about them keeping you as plan b...
The question becomes... do you take a week or so and stop msging her completely or do you keep at it casually
Let me know what works for you, ill keep you updated too lol

Girls demand atention BUT love the no atention.

Another mistery of nature

I spent a short period of my life as a tele-marketer and I can promise you that the biggest problem most people have when time-bridging over the phone is thier ability to create a genuine close. Use your material, build rapport and then use this very simple technique to get a firm close.

PUA: (be direct, never ask her opinion in an open ended way, control the dialouge) It's been nice talking to you but we definately need to meet up soon, what's better for you Monday or Tuesday?

HB: uhhhh monday.

PUA: Cool, morning or afternoon?

HB: afternoon.

PUA: Good well i'll pick you up around 4 then.

It is not a sure thing, but it is the most effective way of closing a phone conversation. Why?

If you give a girl and open ended question like: "when can we go out?" it will fail on the basis of the fact that she will be naturally apprehensive to go out with someone who she met once in a bar.

BUT if you are too direct, it is possible that it really wont be a good time for her. Give her the choice, but within boundries that you set. Ask alternate questions (ie: Monday or Tuesday, instead of What Day?) and you strike rate will improve significantly.

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