I'm a nPUA and this is my first post. I sarged this somewhat shy HB8 at a classy bar and got her number. I called her the next day, Sunday, and made quick, clever conversation. Got two more IOIs when I told her that we should hang out sometime and she said "yes." and then she thanked me for calling. I said "my pleasure" and then I had to get going but I would talk to her soon. She is an eye doctor and told me that she worked 7-9 (not 9-7!!). I dropped her a playful text teasing her about her boss working her too hard doing keratomileusis operations. Probably too nerdy, but she's a doctor and I also have a medical background... I call and leave a message on Wednesday, but don't have a good time to reach her because i bartend W-Fr 5-12, so she's either working or sleeping when i'm off. She calls and leaves me a message while I am working on thursday night. I respond thursday at 11.30 but she doesn't answer, so I leave a message saying maybe we can talk Saturday, which we both have off. I call Saturday and get no call back as of today, Sunday...I did not leave any creepy messages, only short, confident ones. I feel the schedule/phone tag problem really hurt my game. Even though she seemed interested, I feel that I am down to my last call/text message before I seem overbearing. How should I play this out? Wait till next Thursday/Friday and go for a CF call/message?

You see, the magic starts when you meet her, build attraction and comfort, and it's importnat to keep this magic alive until the next encounter.
If you're unfortunately going to leave each others voicemails and stuff the magic will dissapear and she will remember as that one guy that I met who was cool and all but nothing happened.

Now, there is a solution to this problem, but you will waste more energy on fixing it than instead preventing it.

Just go out and meet other girls, make yourself a litle less available.

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I'd say a good way to recover from this is to shoot her a text message in 3-5 days but no later or no earlier. This window of time shows that u aren't all about her, but yet you are still somewhat thinking about her. The text should be real brief and should have something to do with her, some kind of association. Text messages are great, because if they don't respond.. it's not like u initiated any form of verbal conversation with her, so there for you weren't rejected, she just doesn't have good taste. Flirt with her a little through texting, then tell her you'll call her sometime thats good for both of you (not too late, or during dinner or anything) and then DON'T ! haha i love this one, cuz then they think ur busy and blah bla so they get all anxious. If she calls you, pick up and hang up on her real fast, then call her back the next day before 4pm no earlier than 1pm.
it always works...
good luck to you, i hope to see a lay report from u in the next week
peace

Thanks for the advice. I'll take both of your ideas and try to meet as many women as I can this week and then try your push/pull text/phone technique on the slippery opthamalogist.
So jon1320, do you mean hang up like my phone is on the fritz, or just say "hi, I gotta go, can't talk now, bye" and keep it to a 10 second exchange? Your timeframe and rationale make sense. I think I've usually AFCed it around this stage before due to a lack of patience that makes me want to straightforwarldly take care of business. Hopefully I'll get to that LR...thanks

Yo, just straight pick up and hang up, no words no pauses, just answer, hang up. its a winner =]

why in the hell would you do that?!

You're best bet it to wait tell she' calls you don't call her

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So u think you can handle this?

Something that just occured to me.
WHen it comes down to it I always try to slow down the calls/messages before they slow them down on me. If they message you a few times saying whats up? And you leave short concise reply then they will start to wonder why you are keeping yourself at a bit of a distance. May sound counter productive but realistically I believe that the lack of calls will make them more intrigued than a number of them.
Ok ranting, probably still drunk.
Schlater gaters!

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because it shows that you're obviously busy, and not 'friendly' enough to say anything. This shows that your not on her friend side and it keeps them wondering...
think about it

Ok- so the HB 8 opthamologist got off the hook on this one. I tried one more text to no avail. Sorry, no LR on this one, but I have gotten five quality numbers in the last two weeks which definitely makes up for it. I feel that I played it a little too cold and was not inviting enough to build comfort. Not to be too AFC, but I think I sometimes need to use a soft touch, as in this case, when I am perhaps an intimidating 6-4 blonde guy sarging a shy asian doctor girl. I think my callback ratio can be improved on my first calls. I've tried Paradise's technique which goes like this: Surprisingly, I was only 1 for 5 trying this routine on solid number closes, when I really was expecting a callback. I even got feedback from one 7's friend saying that "I rubbed her wrong on the message." No disrespect to Paradise, because his message seems sound, but maybe I need to try another angle. I just got really solid number closes with a Swedish 10 and an Chinese 9 this weekend, and I want to bring my best game to set up the best possible day twos. Any advice?

An even better idea would be to call her and when she answers, hang up the phone. She'll think that you got a more important call on the line or that you're such a busy person you couldn't even say you'd call her back in a second. Calling her puts the ball in your court.

Do this several times in a row for max effectiveness.