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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:43 am 
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Ok so I've walked up to a set, used an opener, gained their respect through pre planned game, used negs etc. BUT WHAT NOW?!

I still find myself waiting for them to make the first move, I know a few methods to make a physical connection but I am struggling to pull them off. My natural game is cocky funny and I just find myself standing there being cocky funny and then I exit the set, which must look like some random bloke comes over chats for a bit thinking hes better and then fucks off....

Any tips on closing methods PLEASE write back!

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Hey man i have a few questions that might help you see the answer to your problem for yourself.


What do you want from a woman?


What do you like about a woman?



A couple months ago I used to have the same problem. I could stand a 2, 3 4 or 5 set for my self being all flirtatious and cocky anf funny or whatever and then it got to the point where... I really didnt know what i was supossed to do next in order to get laid, get a number close or a kiss close or whatever closure i could think of.

And the thing was just to smile and be noticed and be of a higher value than other guys around. But I didnt really know what I wanted.

When you aproach a set one could pre-asume that youve already selected a target ( if youre just opening a random set just to warm up and get social proof, its a different situation then, you dont really need closure of any kind )

But when you pick a target and open the set, You have to stay focused on HOW to create the right tension between you and your target.

The bigger picture. You are trying to get the sets attention and demostrate higher value and have fun, whatever. but at the same time you are trying to create a state of sexual tension between you and the girl you like.

Theres the Kino pinging, small touch on her shoulder then take away, see if she reacts to this, then small touch on her waist, then another take away and see how good is her reaction to your touch. Next is a small hugh like ( oh my good im adopting you like my little sister . cajun's. ) and gradually increase the level of phisical contact that you two have.

Most guys out there make the mistake of not realizing the value of a hug. Be a person that is in comfort with yourself and the girl and hug her. it isnt personal, its just an "im starting to like you" hug. friendly, simple, harmless, casual hug.

Think about it for a moment that a girl goes a night out with her friends, thinking " i hope noone touches me tonight".. does that sound logical?.. NO.

So be aware that your target isnt expecting your touch but keep it friendly and she wont reject you either.

Now you take it from there. Once you break the kino barrier it is easier for you to start building rapport with her, and maybe isolate her ( hey guys, your friend and I like each other, is it ok with you if I borrow her for a couple of minutes?)...

Something like that, and even if she doesnt want to be apart from her friends she is still likely to give you her number if you manage to break the kino barrier and have a good conversation and be funny.

So again, think about what you really want from a woman..

Is it sex? a date? a kiss? just to chat?

Whatever it is, you can get it, but you must have your goals clear.

Anyways, you can start with the kino Pinging excercise ( touch then take away and wait from reciprocity from her )

It will help you feel more comfortable with yourself, and at the same time will let her know that youre not afraid of getting physical and touchy and she can feel more confident and relaxed ( can u imagine if you open set and never take a chair to sit down with them, and stay up all uncomfortable )......

being a physical person, not being afraid of a hug, kiss or whatever, makes you feel relaxed, and tru your relaxed look you can make everybody feel relaxed too.

Another impoirtant thing is to mind your possition within a set in relation to your target. try to be next to your target but not adressing her all the time. rather talk to her friends but have her there next to you so you can kino and let her kino too. ( small punch on your arm, pinch on your cheek, whatever )..
hope this helps man. take care.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:47 pm 
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Brilliant, simply brilliant! I have made notes from this :)

Thanks a lot!!!


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