so i recently posted up before just trying to even talk to this girl. now i dont want to sound rediculous (Mod Edit: http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/ ) but i really like this girl. so we have been talking, her little sister is going out with a friend of mine. my friend calls me and asks me to stop talking to his girls sister cause he fears it will affect his relationship. Me and Kathy talk and figure it will be best to keep our talking between me and her. then she asks me my status with my ex because "she doesnt want to step on any toes" i explain there is nothing going on but it shouldnt matter we are just friends talking. everything has been goin awesome texting her. we make plans to go riding sunday she seemed all about it. I tell her to set her alarm early so we can go out at 9. i text/ call in morning..... nothing get a text at 11 saying im so sorry!!!! just woke up. so i go its fine im still in the area i can pick you up........... nothing since ........... keep in mind i really like this girl what should i do. wait 2 day and text saying heyy whats up

Hey Seedoo48,

since no one is answering our posts yet I studied yours... check this:

Seedoo48 said: "then she asks me my status with my ex because "she doesnt want to step on any toes" i explain there is nothing going on but it shouldnt matter we are just friends talking."

Do I get this wrong or did you (unconsciously LJBF her?). If you did, she might be confused about were it is all going...

And I don't want to get your paranoia going, and I really hope she's honest about oversleeping. But it souds she had a wild night, and your dat got out-prioritized by something.

Don't say "hey wats up" and act like nothing happend. She stood you up man! She stood your Alpha male ass up and you don't like that. Be the prize, don't let her mess you around. This is inner game stuff, I know its difficult but once you'll try it you're gonna like it. One-itis or not.

I hope you like my advice and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about suspecting she replaced your date with somebody else. Perhaps its her sister busting her ass, who knows.

Let me know how you sailing man.

Yours truly, Buccaneer, a pirate from Amsterdam

so to start things off to finish first post i get a message the next day saying way to call me back!! to make a long story short she said she tried calling me twice and stopped cause she didnt want to annoy me....
so now this past week me and her have been talking a good amount.... even taking it to the phone now and just have great conversations. we end up making plans for friday night. bunch of people going to dinner...... she texts me friday asking if she can bring a girlfriend of hers. i didnt care so said she was welcome...... gets to the point where its like screw this not waiting going to dinner. so i tell her ill call her after we are done eating...... i call her tell her we are going to the liquer store..... sounded like she was somehere loud and she says for me to call her when we get home and they will head over....... nothing, havent heard from her since then........ now what, is this constant lmr........

First off your friends an AFC for telling you to stop talk to his girlfriends sister fuck him and do what the hell you want to do all he's doing is cock blocking you. Tell him to stop being a wuss and deal with it

Your in the friend zone so so bad. I know you probably think your making progress by having such great conversations with her but your not. Think about it how long you've been hanging with her/texting/talking to her on the phone and haven't even kissed her yet.

You're screwing up trying to meet her with groups of other people around
meet her one on one get touchy feel with her move a move or you've got nothing.

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So... she overslept your original "date", the next week or so asked to bring a friend to a dinner which she never showed up to, obviously went out instead because you heard it was loud in the background, and then never showed up when she said she would come over afterwards?

Quite frankly, I would just drop her. No matter how much you like her or how much you think she likes you, you are obviously not a priority in her life. She is stringing you along and making no effort at all to meet up with you.

Seems like any plans you make with her are becoming her backup plans. Sure she'll agree to do something... if nothing else comes up. She overslept your date because she was possibly out doing something the night before... so she wasn't too concerned about waking up on time. She never showed up twice in one night and was with another friend out somewhere... so she found something more interesting to her than meeting up with you.

Even if you wanted to follow a "3 Flakes You're Out" policy, she blew all three. You gotta draw the line somewhere. I wouldn't bother trying to make more plans or inquiring what she did instead. I would just leave her alone for some time and maybe she'll end up contacting you with plans because she hasn't heard from you in a while and she "misses you". If she does text, maybe don't respond to a few and later on in the week just simply say you were busy and you couldn't get back to her.

Maybe I overanalyzed something or was to harsh on the "she messed up" take, but I see guys getting too caught up in girls all the time. They get friend zoned or keep getting flaked and they keep going back for more. You have to draw a line somewhere, so do it fast before you get caught into that trap yourself.

so i really appreciate all your answers guys! but honestly i cant stand losing! i still havent talked to her... my "friend" knew me and her have been talking. that night he told his gf if me and jackie go out there will be some serious problems. his gf called her sister and bam! no call back..... to make a longstory short...... he is the reason. now i have a feeling if i were to message or text i might get no response...... im not gunna let this kid win...... what u guys thinking .......... i was going through her facebook pics and saw her in an album with a really close friend of my mothers......... was thinking of being like how do you know renee!? but then again dont wanna come across as stalker......

Seadoo, man, you've got to drop it! I know it's bad when you get one-itis, and you seem to have it really bad, but you aren't helping your case.

You aren't respecting yourself, and if you don't respect yourself, how can you expect a girl to respect you? Stop letting her trample all over you - call her out on it. Sure, sometimes people forget/oversleep/whatever, but not three times. You are worth more than that, your time is valuable, so go and hang out with people who respect you.

And, once you start respecting yourself, she will start respecting you. And when she sees you having fun and not being needy, she will start wanting to hang out with you. You should read some David DeAngelo man, google bristollair and go to their authors page. He says it a lot better than I can.

As for your friend who is threatening to break-up, that's not on. If he is going to be like that, then step away from the situation. Friends should support each other, not screw each other over. Again, he isn't respecting you. You should have a guy-chat with him and work out why he is so worried about you hooking up with this chick.

Best of luck!

Do you know exactly what he said to her and are you 100% sure that's what happened or is it like "that's the only possible way"?