Not really sure if this fits into the Closing and Day 2 category but I think it's best to put this here. I'm new to this forum so i'd like to first start off with some background with this new girl situation i've found myself in. Would really appreciate your guys thoughts.

I was introed to this girl (let's call her GirlGirl) once at a club. Grinded wit her a little bit... but chalked it up to plutonic fun... didn't ask for number... didn't really act on anything.

Month later, Was asked to come chill by this other girl who I met at another bar.. who I'm pretty sure is into me... But I'm not into her at all. She just happens to know GirlGirl and brought her along. We went for a bite/drinks and I negged GirlGirl all night. Thought it was pretty successful. Got a FB add that night.

So we started msging eachother on FB. Lookin back I threw some good negs, mixed with some really AFC shit. But those early conversations she did call me "really funny" (IOI?) and seemed to be trying to DHV me (she kept saying how focused she is on school, I always neg her on being a drunken fool). One night we were having a back and forth convo... I felt like playin hard to get so told her I'm going to sleep in mid convo.

Week later she reinitiates. She calls me a mean person (negging me?), I brush it off. Convo continues a couple days. I mention I partied last weekend.. she asks me if I was out there hitting on little girls (shit test?). All this kind of turned me into an AFC, trying to defend myself and so forth. She did ask me what I was doing next weekend though, I told her I was staying in... cause I was. Later she mentions she watched a movie with a dude... I was like is that your boyfriend jokingly. And she responds saying that he is just a good gay friend... so that's a good sign. Weekend arrives again, she tells me I should come to the club Saturday, I said I would, she then gave me her number so that I could text her when I'm there.

Saturday club night. I arrive, she's PLENTY drunk. She hugs me, we have a convo, we have some shots. Her and her gf makeout in fronta me and my wing when asked to. She even put her leg up on me at one point. And whilst partying i did ask for a kiss jokingly, she played it off. She was kind all over the place that night though... like talkin to many guys. It was like a group clubbing thing everyone seemed to know eachother that night. LATER on an AMOG comes up starts hitting on her buying drinks. I did'nt want to chase, so I ignored it. Payed no attention and just chilled wit my friends. After the club I text her that I'm going partying after with some of our mutual friends I guess we knew. She says she wants to come, BUT those plans got cancelled so we never met up.

She texts me the next day. We text now alot. Eventually I mention I need to do some baby sitting. She tells me she'd like to come along, I play it off like she probably wouldnt be good wit kids. Then she's like no I'm great with kids. Whatever. So she comes along when I babysat my little cousin at the mall. It was kind of a weird day, I was tired and really focused on the kid. We have some convos. I just kept up my negging and didn't really progress anything. She does txt me later on that night that I better come drink tomorrow.

NEXT night is critical. Saturday now shes told me to come clubbing. I ditch out, since i didn't feel like drinking that day. In fact I msg her Saturday during the day and get a no reply. Sunday now, I ask her how it was last night, she says I'm gay for not coming. Then she stops responding.

I didn't want to reinitiate. So I wait a whole week and we don't text AT ALL. Friday hits and I break the silence. I ask her if shes goin out this weekend she says she isn't but we had a good text convo. Saturday now, she asks ME if I'm going out. I say I am, she calls me to see where I'm going. I tell her to come to this club, she's like K i guess but I hate it there. Now... she calls me at like 1230.. tells me she's in line. I tell her I'm not there yet ( i got held up wit something). I got to the club really late.. like right before it closed. We had a shot, a fleeting convo and she had to go, she DID tell me to come eat lunch with her and her friends tomorow. I told her I'm going somewhere after. She texts me later on asks me to tell her where I'm going. I tell her, but she says she has to sleep now.

K Sunday now, I slept in cause I was out all night. So I miss lunch. Texted her at night... asked how lunch was and I was really hungover... and got a NO REPLY.

So this is where I stand now. Don't know where to go from here. I'm getting mixed signals, and I FEEL like I've played her off too many times and she's doing the same to me. Like a vicious cycle. I also don't want to go AFC and start chasing her. But also do not want to continue the cycle...

Whew,

theres alot here, and I dont have time to post on it all so here it goes..

"do you like this girl or not?"

I would guess this is what this chick is thinking every time she hangs out with you...
you Neg her constantly, play SUPER hard to get blow her off at every turn and make plans to cancel...
ive dropped long time friends for less and this chick hardly knows you.

QUIT the negging... its not getting you anywhere
on top of that, if you want this girl... go get em tiger... she is making out with her friend AND YOUR WING and all you do is jokingly ask for a kiss too?
hell at that time just walk up and take it... grab the bull by the horns and figuritivly take some control.
or just drop it and move on,

at this point... i woulnt talk or attempt to talk to this girl for at least a month... unless she reaches out to you...
turn over a new leaf, and start over call her out... go somewhere she wants to go.. and just be that cool guy.

JMT
Lucky

"feelinglucky" is absolutely right!

I'm in the same perplexed situation too! This girl that I once asked her out denied as she said I was too nice to date, 4 months ago (although she seemed to be really interested to go out initially). I knew something was wrong with ME (this wasn't like the first time a girl called me a nice guy but I never got what they meant until I found this site! Phew!)
I finally got out of that Nice guy essence and fell into the bad guy traits
This girl is kinda confused now since I froze her for long (like feelinglucky says) and I've been acting like a noAFC and now she's been playing games and shit tests too!
Surprisingly, she reached out herself and tried asking me out in three different ways twice a few days back but I didn't greedily grab any of those in order not to come off as needy but I think I've now gained enough bad-boy points to go out with her and do all the Kino!
A balanced game works well, makes you mysterious but a game of the same kind (eg: Negging) for long makes you "predictable".
I guess it's about time for us to ask the girls to go out no-nonsense way!

just remember,
your talking to these chicks because your interested.... So at some point its not AFC or Needy to express that interest in a congruent fashion

Lucky

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150 people are killed every year by Falling Coconuts.... 10 by Shark Attack.

I couldn't find any stats on death from approaching a woman.

Update: She did end up replying... infact she asked if I'm going to a mutual friends bday next week... she said she might not go because this mutual friend makes dumb decisions at the club and she doesn't want to be around to watch that (remember I DLV'd her about being a drunkard at the club). Then I told her I hated people like that... She then was like "I'm not like that..." so again I think she's trying to qualify herself. THIS time though, I took your guys advice I'm just gonna start agreeing with her and playin nice.. no more NEGs.

Alright dudes... need advice. I MUST know if i stand a chance wit this girl otherwise I should move on.

So since I last updated... it's been the same thing every day. We text for a bit during the day. She STOPS responding to my last text... then the next morning she replies. Then we text during the day, she stops responding, then next morning same shit.

I see 2 situations: 1. She's a polite girl and doesn't want to outright diss me, but is trying to send a message. 2. She's runnin game on me and wants me to be the chaser?

Given all this info, there has to be a masterful PUA out there than can give me SOME advice.

Maybe she is going to bed?


idk... text game can be touph because it is hard to get a read from the other person...

set up a time to meet her face to face, sooner the better.

the longer you let this go on.. the more likely you will be in the friend zone..

same as online game... the longer you just email back and forth, the less likely to get past that.

Get in front of her and just start esclating untill she stops you...
you will figure it out pretty quick.

as for her just not responding to your last txt till the next morning.. call her out on it...

be like... oh wow... that was the best you could come up with after 13 hours?

JMT,
Lucky

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150 people are killed every year by Falling Coconuts.... 10 by Shark Attack.

I couldn't find any stats on death from approaching a woman.

Quit the negs, just ask her out on a week day. If she agrees to go out with you on Friday or Saturday, tell her you already have plans. If she gives you any reason that she can't, break all contact with her and get on something else. You may try in 3-4 weeks again.

If the messaging keeps on, but there is still no date, than wait till she messages you (she is the one who sents the last msg), than break contact for a few days, then call her to ask her out. If she does not agree to go out, stop contacting her for a few weeks and move on with something else in the mean time. You may forget about her in the mean time (which is not bad), but you may also call her again.

By the way, when having a "messaging session", do not keep on messaging endlessly. This is asking for trouble. She will flake on you at some point and you wil sit there asking yourself why doesn't she message. Make sure, her message is the last message and you will be alright. Resist the temptation to msg back.

You are to much into her right now and this is not good. You need change things.
Make sure you keep gaming some other women, before one-itis sets in. I think you are on the edge here.