Cliff notes at the bottom if you dont want to read entire post.

I had a day 2 with a girl i met at a club the week prior. I had it set up at the mall. Things kinda started off slow, but I picked up kino when in stores when we picked like ridiculous outfits for each other etc...

We were in the mall for bout 3 hours (didnt seem that long at all), when she then recommended we go eat dinner. My goal was to get her back to my place, so I said lets eat at "x" which was about 5 minutes from me.

During dinner I made a reference to this amazing chocolate that isnt available in this city, and she has to try it one day. When we are done dinner, I get her back to my place by telling her I have some of that chocolate you should quickly try some before heading home. (I made sure i put in quickly, so she feels more comfortable bout leaving)

Wedding Crashers was on TV, so we watched a majority of this, but i felt at times the convo was drying up...but she never once said she wanted to leave, so I know she wanted me to make a move.

Near the end of the movie, I finally run the "tension test" and made out with her. I think I figured out my sticking point, and its relying too much on games for the k-close. When I made out w/ her in the club I ran the trust test too.

My question is, how can I judge how fast she wants me to take it, and start to use more smoother k-closing techniques? In our first meeting I came off as super-confident, I dont want her to start thinking im reverting back to an AFC.

I really thought I ruined it at the end with the lack of escalation, but in the end before leaving she told me since im out of town next week, we should meet up mid-week. So maybe she wants things to go slower? I dont know?..any thoughts/feedback would be appreciated.

Sorry for the long post, just thought I'd give you somewhat of a background.

Cliff notes:

-Day 2..kinda awkward, but got her back to my place
-We made out, but only at the end of the 6 hour date
-I'm relying too much on k-closing gambits
-I think she wants me to escalate more..how do i?

good post i kinda sorta ran into the same problem...

i overcame it by being touchy in the beginning of the date and continuing it throughout. when i first meet a girl my arm is on her waist in the first 5 minutes. and i continue to touch the entire night. if i can get kisses in i do but if not then it doesnt matter. as long as she's comfortable with ur touch the first night things are going well. on the second night right when u meet her you should jump on exactly where you left off. if u had ur hands all over her before why would it make a difference now? and when ur that close to each other during a date as long as your words are on point then she'll love kissing. just make sure to be slow and steady about it. its not cool to jump at her tongue...

here's one i used... on the phone before the second night i told her "right when i see you imma kiss you". we met up and i went in for the kiss and she turned her head and kissed me on the cheek. i was like "really?!" and we continued on the date. two hours later she was cold and i took my jacket off to give it to her but when i started putting it around her i pulled her in close and said "can i get that kiss yet?" obviously when i said it i was already going in for the kiss. and obviously i got it.

just be smooth about ur situation.

cool, thanks for the advice. I like the part about being touchy very early on.

I have another date with her on thurs. at a bar/restaurant. I left off by making out with her, how do I exactly continue at that level inside a sit down setting in a bar? Since we'll be sitting at a table, what can I do other then some kino with her hands? She's somewhat shy and she asks for validation after answering some questions (i.e. "i like x, y and z...is that bad?"), so i doubt she would really want to kiss/makeout in a public place like that.

Any suggestions for kino techniques in this setting?

Thanks.

Alrite man you took a lil while to pull the trigger but you did it so good job. On thur when meet her just do a basic compliance test like putting your hand lightly on her waist as you say hello or put your hand on her shoulder if she is sitting down. just notice how receptive she is to your touch and that should gauge how the evening will go.
Dude,
Paladin

when she says i like x,y z is that bad? she's basically looking for your approval. it could be something as simple as "i like eating meat...is that bad" but that could lead to "i like swallowing cum... does that make me a slut?" so encourage her to loosen up and remind her that nothing she does can be considered good or bad, its just her way of living. its not a neg but it doesnt give her a DHV

and whether your eating or not i'd recommend sitting at the bar and not at a table across from each other. it puts your two side by side INSTEAD of facing off. I'd wait till you two are more comfortable with each other for a formal dinner type setting esp. if she's shy. AND at the bar you can include the bartender in your conversations and bartenders can be great wingmen.

you start off by light kiss on the cheek and a firm hug when you meet her and since ur sitting side by side as you flirt with ur arm around her you can feed her food or give her a sip of your drink and whisper sexy things in her ear and kiss her on the ear/cheek. after a couple drinks she wont be so shy anymore and things could get heavy.

just make sure to keep the tone light and sorta romantic. she may be shy on the streets but a freak in th sheets. and make sure you trim your junk and have a couple of condoms on you. one might not be enough.

but overall stay on your toes... the bar could get too crowded... a fight could break out... the food could be bad. just make sure that she is comfortable and smiling and things will be good.

sorry to bust ur balls but the guy left off making out with the chick. why would he need to do a compliance test? she complied a long time ago when she was swappin spit with him. she's the shy one so he needs to take charge of the date. it should be he that makes her more outgoing not her that makes him more reserved.

a light kiss and a firm hug to remind her that u are the man and she was yours from day 1. hell i'd even have my arm around her as i lead her to the seat.

Thanks for all the responses.
That's a good one, I'm gonna use that next time.

I think we are in C2 stage right now..I feel she is coming out of her shell too. When trying to figure out the logistics, I just got a txt from her saying "should we meet at the bar or at your place?" (my place is a 5 minute walk to the bar). The fact that she recommended that is a big comfort sign right?

I'm feeling pretty confident about tomorrow night, I just need to come up with a good way of getting her back to my place after the bar.

I'm pretty sure that all u have to do right now on this date is not mess up...keep doing what you have been doing and keep showing her your confidence. I don't know if she knows that this bar is close to your house but if she does already its definately on her mind. As far as getting her back to your house, I would say something like...maybe if your lucky after this you could crash at my place. If you both have been drinking a little I can't see why she would say no at this point

Plausible deniability. Do what I'm doing and say you're watching some kickass movie...

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