Ok, so I get numbers easy easy easy. The problem is that I REALLY hate calling chicks for the first time. I always felt that Eye contact and Body language were the key(for me) to reading a girl and for communicating but on the phone that's gone so I have a hard time building attraction & comfort because my main tools are gone.

Is it Ok to just text occasionally for a week or more until you've got someplace you could meet?

First of all # close is not your goal. At least I do hope so! The phone is only a tool for you when you can't continue gaming her during day 1. You need to create a timebridge to meet her again during day 2. It's not a problem at all that you "REALLY hate" talking to a HB on the phone when you've just met her. Many guys don't like talking on the phone for hours. I don't recommend that either. Talking to her over the phone in this situation could actually be very dangerous. This as you could become her friend instead of her lover or BF. This as you will not see how your DHV and attraction switches are received. You need EC and BL for that. Because of this I don't recommend texting her either. So what do I recommend? You should either during day 1 plan and set up a day 2 or if you don't have that taken care of during day 1 you should call her and set up a day 2 with her over the phone. Keep that call short.

i think it's fine

nothing wrong with texting... in fact, i hardly ever call girls.
example - met a girl over a month ago, spoke to her for 5 mins but she had to leave so i grabbed her number... havent called her once, yet we've been texting the whole time. she sent me a few raunchy pictures for xmas as a taster for new years eve (the day 2)

but as has been said - #closing shouldnt be your goal. you want to get to know the girl to see whether she matches up to your standards dont you?
so stay in set after the #close and work at getting to know her, building comfort and getting her to qualify etc.
by doing that you'll find it's a lot easier to get day2's etc because they've already invested a fair bit of time in you.

what confuses me a bit is that you say body language and eye contact are key for you and thats why you dont want to call... but you're fine with texting?
it sounds more like you're afraid of fucking up over the phone and using this crap as an excuse. if thats the case, man up and make a plan.

Sounds like you need to work on your phone skills more and text her for a while without seeing her if you want to loose her down the road.

Yeh I agree, long phone calls initially are a waste of time.
Just like anything you should call girls, even if it is just to practice.
If you don't have a shortage of numbers that should be easy... also you could get numbers off girls who you don't wish to date, then call them to practice and just cancel on the date... lol... thats slack.


What about flakers, what do you with the ones who give you their number and then don't answer your calls for a day 2?
I've tried calling this one chick twice now and no return phone call. She did however reply to my merry xmas msg, but not with merry xmas just with what she was doing and no return Q. I tried calling the day after the xmas msg, I didn't reply to her txt though.
have I scored a flaker and just forget about her?
Or give it one more go next year... lol

Or send a fb msg in case she lost her phone... (not friends with her on fb)

Thanks.

sounds like you've got a flaker.
i'd just leave it.
if you happen to run into her again, game her again. do a better job this time so that she doesnt get buyers remorse.

being a PUA is about not worrying about where when or how and always being able to deal with it, so i would say, talk to girls as much as you can and get better at it.

but if you are not into gaming and you really want this girl (a case of ONE-GINA) then play the way you feel good.

try this thread for making that first phone call easier.

link http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.co ... highlight=

good luck.

only text a few times, call her let her know your serious