yeah title pretty much sums it up. When i read the lay reports there all pretty much geared towards guys who have their own house, apartment whatever. So im just wondering if any of you have routines I can use to fclose her and her place instead of mine without looking like a bum

I know there is (supposedly) no such thing as a dumb question, but come on man. I am going to go out on a limb here an guess that you've never had a girl over while your mom was at work or perhaps never. Either way, it's all in your hands. Are you an adult or just a 15 y/o. If you are the later then you may be S.O.L for the time being. If you are an adult tell mommy that you want have some female company, once in a while. If mommy objects, then you've got other things to worry about.

sure, there are things you could do, but not having your own place outside of your parent's house will CRIPPLE your ability to hook-up with women since it:

a) prevents you from setting up an environment for sex
b) prevents you from having an easy environment to transition into sex (on your own terms)
c) forces you into the position of having a girl invite you to her house (which for some girls just will not happen right away - some girls like their living space to be private until she feels she really knows and trusts you)

i would say that you should move your focus off of pick-up and move it onto getting out of your parents house. sure, it will mean more effort, but it will allow you to maximize your options with hooking up with women.

but, with all that said, one thing you could do is be curious about her and her life. if you can be genuinely interested in her living situation AND if she has something she really thinks you'd enjoy seeing, you might be able to get an invite to her place.

you could also hook up with chicks in your car, if you have that option. car fucks are fun.

get out of your parents house, man. it will pay off in the end.

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I've never tried it before but I've heard that innocent excuses can get you into their place. For example, if you've driven them home walk them to the door and ask "Can I use your bathroom?" If you execute it right it should seem innocent and if you built enough comfort then she'll say yes. But, be ready to use routines and FTC once inside so that she doesn't feel pressured and you can work toward the f-close.

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Go back to their place instead if you dont feel comfortable. I live with my parents and i bring girls back. The secrecy and hiding gives them a feeling of excitement. Not a big deal dude really.

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That sucks when I lived wh my parents I was kind of in a different house on the same block so it was ok but still id have to be like yeah thats my parents in the mornin and Dad would be like wink/high five mum would be of hospitable when i just wanted her to fuck off.

if your 15 just tell your mum that your not a virgin and that you need alone time with girls you bring home I did that

(after she walked in on me bonin some girl i told her was my friend, HERES YOUR WASHING!!! O FUCK SORRY)

but eventually when your 17 18 what not got to get out of there

If your past 17 or 18 then wtf are you doing get an apartment

you can make shit happen bro. live in your own world. u make the rules to make it work. like the man said above, u can make excuses.

or get comfortable with doing freaky shit...

some girls are into some not

use ur judgement

but there are many surfaces conducive to at least a couple positions lol

umm ur car bro. especially if ur younger. its ok everybody does it. i dont care what anybody says. get to whatever base u can in ur car...

its cool. and yeah a friends house?? um i dont kno why no one said that. if ur friend is down with that. my friends are

i mean dont bring her to ur friends house like that

i mean invite her to a "get together" (a party lol) and fuck her there...

get headsomewhere bro. that is easy

ull make it work. bring her to ur house when ur parents arent there

get ur parents use to u independantly having company and them not interfering or being gay

train ur parents to work around u whether they condone or kno whats going to happen or not...

basement, ur room... bro if this is a girlfriend and ur 18 or under u CANhave her over when ur parents are there

now if u wnat to be an all out PUA thats gunna be tougher...

i kno im not an all out pua...

sorry i just reread the title and i thought it said:

"how can I F-close with my mom?"

lol... sorry bro