Anyone got ideas?

Post you're favourites and tips on using them...

cheers

Sparks

Maybe don't think of it so much as routines. For me, I'm a spontaneous guy, so I've learned that I'm not really good at selling a canned and rehearsed routine. However, I do like to make a list of backup conversation topics and have them on me just in case it's going stale (dip into the bathroom or something). I've found that this makes your game more natural. Of course I don't know if this would work for you or not, but it's something that I am personally more comfortable with.

Also keep in mind that you are going to want to take the conversation to a more personal level. After a few minutes into the date, ask a question like: "If there was just one thing in your life that made it worth living, what would it be." Then make sure you can relate to whatever she says.

Also don't forget to kino gradually the entire time and tease her with negs if she shit tests you. I like to go into any situation with the mental preparation that a shit test should be coming at any time. That way you won't be thrown off. I hope this helps.

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When I said routines, I wasn't meaning word for word.. ..incidently I ran the cube; it went very well.

Cheers

Typical first date.

"Let's meet for a cup of something delicious and make friends. Which is better for you this week, Tuesday or Thursday."

We meet. Hug at first sight, neg purse/nails/height/anything. Grab cup of tea. Sit. "A friend of mine, he thinks he's like this whole pick-up artist and everything, taught me this great icebreaker. It's called the Cube. Have you heard of it?" Protection against her calling me out on canned material. Do the cube. Use the cube as a conversation starter, not as a routine. Each of her answers should be followed up and explored as a conversation in of itself.

General conversation. If she asks boring questions like where do you work, how long you been here, etc, call her out on it and ask better questions (e.g., "if you could live in any 3 places in the world, what would they be" or "if you had to have a tattoo, what & where would it be" or "we found a stargate that takes you to any place & time, name 3 places you would go. Then it's broken, in which place/time would you stay?")
Neg anything she says, but make her feel like she's slowly winning you over.

Change venue. "Let's go grab some ice cream."

Walking, take arm-in-arm, "Have you ever walked with such a sexy man?" Notice if she holds on to you longer or not. Great calibration to see where you stand with her. "lAlright, show's over. Now get off me."

Get ice cream. Sit. Talk.

Change venue again to bar/lounge/bartini
My personal preference is to generally sit next to her, not across from her.
If you're in a busy place, play game "Fuck, marry, or kill" (point out people you would fuck, you would marry, or whom you would kill. Builds our own little world. Now you're sitting next to her. Evolution-phase-shift for kiss close. If it fails, you need more private place. Take a walk. After escalating kino, stop walking, say, deliberately, "What would you do, if i kissed you, right, now.". Don't wait for answer; it's rhetorical. Just lean in for the kiss. After kiss close, walk with arm around her. NOW i ask personal questions. What she thinks of life. Where is she going in life. What is her ambition. What did she want to be when she was growing up (and don't tell me princess!). Use negs with caution, as she is opening up to you and is a lot more vulnerable. After you got good rapport, say "I gotta tell you, my first impression of you was pretty shitty, but as i actually got to know you better, you're actually pretty interesting." Make her feel like she won you over. "There's still the problem of your cooking habits" or whatever else you learned about her that you disapprove. Neg hit. Just when she thinks she won you, make your approval just an inch out-of-reach.

My signature is to show her a magic trick after parting kiss. ALWAYS leaves her running after me, grabbing, "how'd you do that?!?" Smile, kiss, turn around, leave.[/u]

RULE OF THUMB: If you don't kiss close on first date, you will very likely never see her again.

^^^^^^ i like this bro, thanks for sharing.

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Xargon, that was a brilliant post, thanks for sharing.

Great post Xargon!

I shall attempt to apply this stuff soon.

EDIT- I have an important question- Do you pay for her Coffee/Ice Cream, or does she pay for her own?

omg lol.

well i guess it depends on what phase ur in.

i'd say during the attraction phase never buy her anything because thats wat every other men do. however after shes hook and you guys build rapport, its ok to do so to show ur gentlemen side.

however it also depends on the person, if you get a snobby bitchy one that expects this, then no, dont buy her stuff to impress, think of other ways to do so. if u get a sweet little girl that doesnt expect it then yes i'd offer to pay for her icecream. add in some like 'dont get used to it, u'll have to earn ur next one' or something like that.

for me pua routines and techniques are just guidelines, its something to fall back on or give urself an extra edge when u get nervous or anxious. all women are different, 1 might react to ur neg with an interested 'he's differnt' look while another might slap you and walk away. Like everyone says, its key to have inner game, self confidence, and lots of energy. Sure not everyone's born with these things, but we're all human and can learn right.

Ive been pretty good with women in teh past before i even found out theres an art to it haha, but i have to say this community has given me many tools to utilize when i get stuck. i'd say Fra Diavlo hits it on the head with being urself and making alist of backups incase u get stuck. just make sure ur transitions into the different topics to be smooth and not so sudden, cuz thats a huge givaway its canned lol. gluck