I just tried this tonight at a bowling alley, my first opener ever, I felt like I just threw up but it was my first step so I was just was happy I found the confidence to at least give it a try. I was talking to my friend about finding the PUA books/forum for a little while and I decided to just go for it. I chickened out with the 3 second rule when I first got there so I wanted to go in balls blazing for the 1st set I didn't recognize (we were playing pool in the back room so we were away from the lanes).

I started walking and getting nervous, and thinking (about not thinking), I saw two girls I didn't see before and I just walked in "Excuse me, I need a female opinion, Team Edward or Team Jacob?" They were bowling and I was just some guy out of nowhere, They both turn toward me and one girl was very enthusiastic about the whole thing. "Like OMG of coooarse team (Edward?)!!!!". I don't really remember who she said, I know absolutely NOTHING aside from the fact that Edward is the vampire and Jacob is furry, so using this opener might not have been my greatest idea ever. The other girl was not so much into it and blandly said "Team (Jacob?).". The other girl then asked me what team I was on, (Fuck) I had no idea what team I was on.

In retrospect I should have made her explain why she liked fur vs fangs so I could go in with a sliver of information of what the hell I was talking about. I stalled for a bit not knowing an answer by saying "If I told you I'm afraid it might ruin a potential new friendship" (vomit) She kinda giggled and kept trying to pry, I eventually said something along the lines of "Of coarse you KNOW which team I'm on" (She knew, I didn't). Before she could see the extent of how unprepared I was, I quickly asked her "What other types of books do you like? Like Mystery or Science Fiction or Romance?" At this point I again realized I knew nothing about these topics as well. She said "Oh well I'm a writer actually!".


(Oh cool I can asked her questions and not seem unprepared) "So you write huh? So if I told you to write a Science Fiction Romance set in space you think you could do that?" At that moment her mom pops out of nowhere and says something I don't really remember ,it was probably just the shock of it all, at that moment I found out that her and the other 2 people sitting on the bench were waiting for her to start bowling. I was talking to 1 person in a 5 set for (what seemed like) 5 minutes while they sat behind me and listened and I didn't even notice. I would at this point like the replicate that moment by asking you to stop reading and have an awkward moment of silence for about 5 seconds (count).

I somewhat got in the mindset that the whole thing was blown anyways so I tried to take that next step and "lock in" and sit down, "Mind if I sit here? I got to get back to my friend over there" (point then awkwardly try to sit in these swivel seats that fly everywhere unless you have your feet on the ground ) which was met by the mother saying "Do you work here?" (I don't want to even tell you what I said here, it hurts to type) "No I'm just trying to be more social, I'm just that creepy guy who just walks up to strangers." There it's typed, I don't want to ever do that ever again. At this point I got ridiculously uncomfortable and decided to just bail saying "If you are uncomfortable talking to me I can go." She was giving me the "No, you can stay" speech while at the same time giving me very aggressive body language (glaring, crossing her arms and her tone was very uninviting). I couldn't take the pressure and pussied out even though I knew I could get at least another minute of pain under my belt. "No I think I'm actually just gonna go" I respected the mother immensely because I wouldn't let me near her kids either, I was fucking weird.

The rest of the night was just me recovering w/ my friend playing pool talking about what happened. There was a girl at the bar and a girl walking around with some guys in the arcade next to the pool tables. I knew I should have made an effort to do more, I have no excuse. But the more I think about it the more I realize I just took an awkward first step into something that I AM, going to commit to, and I AM going to be good at. I took a chance and I'm so fucking happy I did even though I feel like a complete asshole and wanted to throw up. Its funny how much 5 people who I can safely assume I will never meet again have a bad impression of me, and how much it affected me. It makes no logical sense and yet here I am.

Just a quick note I'm 19, the girl I talked to was probably 15 (I wasn't trying to get any, just practice.)

Anyways, I really wanted to see feedback on this opener, and my fail performance.
I think the opener would be good to start her talking about whatever it is Twilight is and then turn the conversation to other books > Tv Shows >whatever show about whatever topic and go from there.

Dude you should have started to hit on the mom. LOL! just kidding man. But the opener is not bad although i dont know about you, but most girls my age (21) have not read or seen twilight so i dont really know if it was a good or bad opener or not... At least she was not like...uh wtf are you talking about (which is highly unlikely because i have never read or seen twilight and i know what your talking about) anyways...idk what the hell i would have done if her mom was sitting there but if it were me, I would have walked away and honestly pretended that that never happened and tried on someone else. ANyways man i have no advice except for keep practicing because you will get more comfortable.

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Props for trying. That in itself is an innovation for you and a sign of you starting to grow.

If the girl said she didn't like twilight or know about it much I would genuinely tell her that it was a trick question and she got the right answer.

The opener is not bad, but work with what you know. You cut yourself out nicely though

And try real practice on real girls who you have a chance of lay with, not be that creepy pedo in the bowling club. The mistakes you made were not caring about her friends (you got disapproval from them by being older and not caring that she has to play) and that you went against the mother (she was right to blow you off, no way you could've recovered from the pedo-stamp, but still)

If she was over 18 with no mother around, this easily could've been a number close. "Hey, I see your friends are waiting for you there, you better go and play now, but I wanna hear about your writing. Give me your number and we can continue this later."

Well, better luck next time. Good luck working this approach anxiety down.

Wow. I will say this is good opener. There are like a thousand Twatlight fans out there and most of em are chicks. Instant connection.

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Is it bad that I read the entire series and managed to debate Twilight with an HB9 for over an hour? I got the number. I recommend biting the bullet and educating yourself if you're going to pull out the feminine culture in conversations. If you can talk romance novels and chick flicks while maintaining an alpha poise, it seems to communicate an air of... I dunno what you'd call it, but it gets laughs out of them.