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BEGINNERS GUIDE TO TALKING TO GIRLS
AND INCREASING YOUR CHANCES

How can you start spitting game if you haven’t spit before? The best proven way to get better at talking to strangers is talking to strangers.
Go out one day but go and expect nothing. Don’t go out and expect your going to get a lot of numbers because it’s not going to happen. Just go out with an open mind, you can only go up right. It doesn’t matter where: a store, the park…etc and just go pass people and say this exact words “hi, how are you today.” That’s it. Do it to everybody that comes by you. Count how many people say it back and you will see almost all of them will reply. That’s how girls are. “Hi, how are you today “doesn’t mean anything. You’re not saying go out with me, you’re not trying to get her phone number, your just seeing how her day is. The best way to have game is to not have game. More on this later.
Remember, always challenge yourself. After you’ve done this for a day or two, it’s time to move into the next level. Before I continue, let me tell you something about girls. The sooner you’re able to tell what type of girl she is the better at talking to her will be. There’s a lot of different girls out there but I broke it down into 3 types that matter.
• Girls looking for a fun time
• Girls looking for a relationship
• Girls not looking for anything.
Now how could you tell what girl you have? It’s not that easy for example if I say the one not looking for anything will be silent because she’s not interested, well the girl that likes fun could also be silent because she’s stuck up.
I’m going to tell you what you need to do. If she’s in a group, talk to her friends and ignore her. That’s basic but then see how she reacts….wait wait I’m getting too ahead of myself. I haven’t even thought you what game to use. My bad.
The first thing you have to chose is what type of girls you want. Like I said there’s 3 types of girls. I’m going to tell you this right now, you CANT read this book right before you go out and expect to fuck a girl. It won’t happen, there’s some things I can’t teach you just by reading this book for example confidence. That’ takes practice.
I have a game that I used to use just to meet girls but I just use it to meet people now. I’m done fucking all the girls I want. I’m trying to start my home business, network (which thank god I learned this before because it really helps me talk to people) and don’t have time anymore but I’m going to pass this to my kid one day but till then, why not pass it to others.
My personality is funny, random, and confident. But believe me I wasn’t born like this. I weight 270, and was the shyest person you could ever meet. I decided to change my life and I lost a lot of weight. In the process I saw what type of girls would talk to me and what type of girls would talk to me after I lost weight. Helped me realized what girls were interested in and that’s why I’m the person I am today. But just like girls, what works for one girl might not work for another but I love how my brain works, I’m able to see patterns so fast and see what works and what doesn’t. I’ll show you how to talk to girls during the day and at nightclubs.
I’ll admit thou, I’m not a master at this because I hate how others call themselves masters when they can’t get “all” girls. That just means you have a higher chance to get a girl than others for example I have one lotto ticket while you have 1.000. Just cause you have more than me doesn’t mean you’ll win, you just have a greater chance. We’ll I’m going to i you a lot of lotto tickets.
The first step to have great success is (drum roll please)…feel good. How do you feel good? Do things that make you feel good; take a shower, do your hair nice, shave, wear nice cloth, and of course put something that smells good. Even thou you wont find out, base on some things girls will immediately determine what your personality is and how they will treat you. Sucks I know but it is a game
Pick a style that makes you happy. My style is professional, I wear vest, ties, nice jackets and you don’t have to waste a lot of money either. I got a suit at the thrift store for FOUR dollars…FOUR!!!!. Of course I don’t show off where I got it to girls but I get amazing compliments.
Now you’re ready but game is like working out, always warm up. Just start with the basics “hi how are you today” and if you want, have a simple conversation about anything. The weather, politics, where she got those shoes. After a warm up its time to start the lessons.
First is the pre open.
Pre open is just like talking to a stranger, say something that doesn’t mean anything. “hello, hows your day today” but here are things to remember. Everybody has a circle around them and if you cross that circle too soon or fast, you’ll ruin that game. Start talking at a safe distance. Next ask her one question for example if at a store, “so just came to do some shopping?” now this is where you determine if she’s the talkative type or the silent quite type.
• Talkative girls: easy to talk to, fun, outgoing, but you can be “just a friend” if you don’t play it right.
• Silent quiet girls: can be this for 2 reasons. She’s shy or she’s stuck up (I love shy girls by they way)

But it doesn’t matter as long as you got solid game.
Next is the true open. There’s different ways to open.
• Question opener (ask her a simple question)
• Opinion opener (ask her what she thinks of something or a situation)
• Direct opener (say something about her)
A great example is if you ask a girl “so just shopping” and she gives you a simple “yea.” Continue with an opener that will get her to talk. This one is free “I have to get going but I just need some quick help, my sisters birthday is coming up and I don’t have any ideas on what to get her, can you help me out.”
Always say your leaving or in a hurry. Example, when you ask a girl out on a date, do you tell her you’re going to watch an hour and a half movie, then go eat for 45 minutes and talk for an hour after? No. you tell her “I want to treat you to a movie and maybe something to eat, I would like it if you came.” Sounds better right. She won’t feel like you’re going to bug her for a long time but it doesn’t mean you have to leave just yet. If you keep her interested she won’t even remember that you had to go and when you want to go, you have your excuse.

When you think of an opener try guessing what she might say, “my sisters birthday is coming up and I don’t know what to get her, can you help me real quick”
Her “well what’s her style”
Me “kind of like yours, emo-ish.”

We all know girls like bad boys, just throw some defensive things in there that are a joke. Make fun of something that isn’t a big deal. DON’T MAKE FUN OF THEIR WIEGHT.
But that’s how you open. Don’t offend her more and more cause the girl will get mad and leave.
Keep the conversation going. Don’t keep the same subject going and going. How do you know when you’re just making it worst?

“Can you help me get something for my sister?”

“Yea sure”

“K thanks, so when’s your birthday”

Haha I did that once and she was like wtf.

Talk about the subject but in different ways for example

“Can you help me get something for my sister?”

“Yea sure”

“K thanks, so would make-up be a good present or would jewelry?”

See what I’m doing. How the conversation keeps going. If you don’t it’s ok. It’s just practice.
Another way you could go is

“Can you help me get something for my sister?”

“Yea sure”

“K thanks but you’re so nice, why are you so nice. What do you want from me” with a smile. Guarantee she will laugh. There’s beginner and expert ways to keep conversation going. After this you would usually isolate which means take her somewhere where it would be just you and her. Things you could say to make her like you. How to get the numbers and much more.

If I get enough people interested in this, I’m going to make a book and I’ll charge like $10 or so with all my material since I don’t use them anymore. Hit me up


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:17 pm 
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Clean this shit up. You bounce all over the place, I couldn't read past the first couple paragraphs. I'm interested to see what three years of experience looks like.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:44 pm 
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lol i agree with misok, but not in such a harsh way haha..

I think your ideas are good - pretty much the mystery method, just in a different way - and I like the fact you have included the newbie mission at the start.

I have never read anything so fast paced though! I mean, Dan Brown is FAST, the Da Vinci Code reads like one of those Japanese trains, which is what grips you.

But yours....frazzled me haha! Are you on speed? :-p.

Good Post though!

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i like the speed of it, keeps you reading...if it wasnt for that i would have been out because of the bouncing around...good advice though...have much else like it?

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pretty much the mystery method
+1

You know you can just tell a girl she's hot right?

Then you can find out if she's interested IMMEDIATELY and skip 90% of this pointless bullshit.

p.s. a direct opener is not "saying something about her" it's EXPRESSING YOUR SEXUAL INTENT FROM THE OUTSET, for example complimenting her on her attractiveness, or saying you want to get to know her over coffee and then exchange orgasms.

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 Post subject: direct openers
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:23 pm 
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Yes but can you not see the problem with a direct opener?

If you convey any kind of attration interest before she is attracted to you, you will blow yourself out.

Now if you do this before displaying higher value to her, then you are letting her base her decision purely on your replicaiton value. I.E. your looks. Now this may work if you are David Beckham - every girl is gonna want him to come up to her and convey interest straight away.

But Im not him - lucky for you, if you are!

I think the only way a direct opener could work is if you are either like David Beckham, or if the girl has displayed some level of interest through proximity. Otherwise, you want to be hedging your bets by allowing her to become attracted to you through your DHV A2 routines, and then convey interest in A3.

PS. There is a kind of girl that I'm sure responds very well to direct openers from anyone - maybe found in Essex. But the game is set up to attract a certain quality of lady is it not?

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Haha just read the last bit of this....LOL

"Do you want to get to know each other over coffee and then exchange orgasms?"

I cant imagine this working on any girl! Do you just go after complete...well, you know,....sluts?? lol.

No girl of value likes to feel like shes being slutty - so I dont know how it would work on a girl of real value.

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 Post subject: Re: direct openers
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Yes but can you not see the problem with a direct opener?

If you convey any kind of attration interest before she is attracted to you, you will blow yourself out.

Now if you do this before displaying higher value to her, then you are letting her base her decision purely on your replicaiton value. I.E. your looks. Now this may work if you are David Beckham - every girl is gonna want him to come up to her and convey interest straight away.

But Im not him - lucky for you, if you are!

I think the only way a direct opener could work is if you are either like David Beckham, or if the girl has displayed some level of interest through proximity. Otherwise, you want to be hedging your bets by allowing her to become attracted to you through your DHV A2 routines, and then convey interest in A3.

PS. There is a kind of girl that I'm sure responds very well to direct openers from anyone - maybe found in Essex. But the game is set up to attract a certain quality of lady is it not?

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You live in the UK?

Come on one of my daygame courses, I'm running a free trial (see my sig).

You don't have to be especially good looking (I'm not) for a direct opener to work.

When you're doing your "attraction building" routine for 20-30 minutes, I've already arranged a date with her next week and got her number, and have moved on to the next girl.

You're suffering from a limiting belief that you need to go around proving your value to women, and that you need to "create" attraction in her before it's OK to tell her you're interested.

Guess what?

By having the confidence to actually be totally direct and honest about your desires to a woman, you actually display a massive amount of "value" and if she were ever to become attracted to you, she will be right then. In fact, most times girls will have made their decision from your initial first minute of interaction, REGARDLESS of what you say. If a girl was gonna fuck you already, then your A1-A3 material is unnecessary. If a girl wasn't then it doesn't matter what you say. So either way it's pointless.

How many times have you been indirect about your approach, spent 20-30 minutes in-set "building attraction," only for her to say she's got a boyfriend, or just go off with her friends never to be seen again? She was NEVER gonna fuck you from the first SECOND. But you wasted all that time because you're not "allowed" to express interest in her until you get an IOI (or so you think).

Why not just immediately filter out the girls who aren't interested within 1 minute, and only bother continuing an interaction with a girl who you KNOW is interested in you? That's just plain efficiency.

If you think this only bags low-quality women, you are dead wrong.

IN FACT

The quality of women you get through direct daygame are the HIGHEST. They are not the club slags out getting hammered. They are the young sexy professionals with proper jobs, aspirations, motivation and tons of self-confidence. They are educated, well-spoken, and you won't find them in even the most high end clubs, or very rarely.

I can tell you, as someone who is not classically good looking at all, that I consistently have 3/4 dates a week with 8s and 9s I meet in the street, when before I was doing indirect night game I would bag a 6 or 7 maybe every month and get a LOT of totally flakey numbers.

This shit works.

Read "Mode One" by Allen Roger Currie. He does the "exchange orgasms" line. Me personally, I just say they're very attractive and I want to find out about them. The point is to express a clear romantic interest from the outset.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:53 pm 
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Yes but can you not see the problem with a direct opener?

If you convey any kind of attration interest before she is attracted to you, you will blow yourself out.

Now if you do this before displaying higher value to her, then you are letting her base her decision purely on your replicaiton value. I.E. your looks. Now this may work if you are David Beckham - every girl is gonna want him to come up to her and convey interest straight away.

But Im not him - lucky for you, if you are!

I think the only way a direct opener could work is if you are either like David Beckham, or if the girl has displayed some level of interest through proximity. Otherwise, you want to be hedging your bets by allowing her to become attracted to you through your DHV A2 routines, and then convey interest in A3.

PS. There is a kind of girl that I'm sure responds very well to direct openers from anyone - maybe found in Essex. But the game is set up to attract a certain quality of lady is it not?

Haha just read the last bit of this....LOL

"Do you want to get to know each other over coffee and then exchange orgasms?"

I cant imagine this working on any girl! Do you just go after complete...well, you know,....sluts?? lol.

No girl of value likes to feel like shes being slutty - so I dont know how it would work on a girl of real value.

MA
Spoken like someone who's never even tried it. Being direct works. Asking a girl if she's single works. Telling a girl you decided to talk to the prettiest girl in the place when you walked in works. It does not blow you out, even when she has a boyfriend and doesn't want the goods, she'll still keep talking to me. It cuts through bullshit and I HATE bullshit, a lot of women do to. So while you're stammering trying to remember lines and complex magic tricks like some struggling street performer, the girl I'm talking to already knows what's on my mind. Women aren't all so arrogant that they think a guy is talking to her just because he wants to screw her, sometimes they think a guy is talking to her because he just wants to make girl talk. You're on your way to the friend zone already.

I don't know about the orgasms over coffee line, it's not me, I don't want to stick my neck and dick out that far. I've never tried it.

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Guys,

Interesting posts. I think first of all, yes you're right. Im new to the game and havent tried the direct approach myself, and maybe its partly because of a limiting belief. I especially dont think im good looking enough to pull it off.

I think both of your posts are really good because everything Ive learned so far describes indirect as being correct - so I certainly dont want to insult your ways of doing things if it works.

I am a learner, and not too arrogant to admit when I'm wrong, so I'll try these direct approaches and see how I get on.

I definately think indirect suits my personality type more...I'm not naturally confident with women Ive not spoke to before, but Im always open to trying new things.

Thanks for the advice, will let you know how I get on.

PS. Day Game? Now there's a hurdle I havent even considered yet! - True AFC I know, but as I say, Im new, we were all young once! :)

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Fair enough. It may be that direct game will never be your style and that's okay. Personally, I don't like to be passive aggressive, so being indirect is not good for me.

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 Post subject: direct vs indirect
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Yeah I know what you mean, I guess its horses for courses.

One thing I would say about the direct style, is it just a case of approach as many sets as possible? I guess it positivly social proofs you.

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i wanna say thanks to blondguy. i like your style man


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One thing I'll say for being indirect is when it's done right it gives you a lot of mystery up front. If you're direct the girl still may not like you, but I can almost guarantee she will respect your balls.

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