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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:18 pm 
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Opening is my biggest problem. I also have a hard time getting the courage to approach, unless im heavily liquored up. I have my best nights when I'm really drunk. The reason for this is that I'm a good drunk in the fact that people have a hard time telling when I'm drunk, but I can still feel it. The reason I do well when I'm drunk as most of you have probably experienced yourselves is that your anxiety and fear are basically wiped out.

Once I do have a successful opener, the conversation from that point on is really natural for me. I just have such a difficult time with an opening line for someone who I know nothing about. Some things just get handed to you and make for an easy conversation starter such as seeing girls wearing tiaras for a bachlorette or b-day party. Then all I have to do is be like "Sooo who's the lucky girl???" or something along those lines. But when there are no noticeable observations then I usually have nothing to say, which sucks.

Back to the whole being drunk thing, a lot of the times I don't even remember how I opened a convo with a chick, which really sucks because I'll think back to how we met and my memory of it sort of spotty.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:37 pm 
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I will definitley say that having a good wingman is key. I had some of my best luck with this kid who basically had no fear and was excessivley confident in himself. He could approach girls and say any stupid thing, but it was good because even if they were repulsed by him, it didn't mean they would feel the same way about me. So while he was making himself look stupod, it provided an in for me to meet girls. It was awesome, I love having a wingman like that.

Me and this kid would have different objectives each night for how we would attack the situation. One night we decided we weren't going to talk to the hot chicks, but their less attractive friends. And sometimes we would talk with a group of unattractive girls. It worked too, I couldn't believe it. There were these two girls and one was hot and the other was fugly, and we were giving the fugly one all the attention. The hot one literally switched spots with her and tried talking with me during mid convo. I gave her a little attention, but then preceded to ignore her. She then whispers in her friends ear "These guys are nothing, lets go!". So they left and 5 mins later they called my friend over and said they wanted us to go their hotel and chill in the hot tub with them.

Then there were these hot blondes that rolled in on the same night. They sat down in these chairs and guys immediatley started to approach them. After one set of guys walked aways after being rejected we slowly started walking in their direction, making them think we were making a move, but then proceeded to give them a quick look and keep on walking by. We eventually stopped to talk to these 3 girls who weren't very good looking like 20 feet away from the blondes. I noticed that the blondes kept looking in our direction. After a little time went by they got up and circled around our conversation. They made eye contact with us, lingered a bit, then went back to their chairs. We waited a couple more minutes, ended the current convo, then made our approach to them. We started chatting with them and it went well until they tried to flip things on us. One of them was like "So why did you guys come over? To try and pick us up and get laid like every other guy has tried to do tonite?" but then I quickly came back and said "Don't feel so special about us talking to you! I don't know if you've noticed, but we've been talking with everyone tonite!" and then I laughed. You could tell she was suprised by that, but then they were like "Well, you guys are pretty cute, give us your numbers." We gave them the numbers, continued to chat for a little and then called it a night.

The kid I go out with now has zero game, and never approaches or talks to anyone. And it can get frustrating because it can hold me back a bit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:20 am 
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honestly, if you approach a girl with confidence and look her right in the eyes (not creepily) it really doesn't matter at all what you say. I personally hate the canned lines and bullshit like that, it's just beating around the bush. Most of the time I don't even remember how I opened, but I'll usually say something like "Hey, I'm so and so what's your name" If they get bitchy and say "Why do you want to know my name" which will practically NEVER happen then you just blow it off however you want, some good ones are "I come in here a lot, and you caught my eye, you got some interesting vibe to you" .....or "Lindsay?" just make up a name and pretend like you're trying to guess it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:29 pm 
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I have the same problem, while drunk i have no fear. but without it i feel like my game is really bad.

What i am doing now is practicing these can openers. Yes their STOCK, but having 5 really good ones, which you trained for many many times will help you kill the anxiety. Train in front of a mirror, watch your body language and practice delivering the opener both verbally and physically, until it just comes out right every time.
Also knowing that you have openers that already work for so many people and create a positive response will give you that extra push that you need.
(I will stay away from ThePickUpArtist show openers, it seems that everyone is using them and girls already herd them)

Take it slow, every good thing takes time. Start one step at a time and tackle every problem at its own. i find myself getting approach anxiety not only from the approach but also because i do not know what im going to talk about after the opener. To solve that, i set one goal which is to approach. After I'll know im good enough with approaches i will continue to other things.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:24 pm 
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you ofcourse have to need an opener if you want to open but infact all you need to say is hi and your in than you can tell the opener but you know the word hi is told in less than a second what the heck is one second :P

i got an self invented trick you can use probably.
i call it the 4 tab rule you need to tab 3 times on your arm or leg or whatever and after tabbing the fourt time you NEED to go no way out just need to go
3 is an magic number in our heads so if we tabt 3 times we can make excuses and still dont approach but the 4th tim confirmd that you need to go

good luck grts. Grid

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